ASCAS Association of Small Collectors of Antique Silvernewsletter # 152 January 2017 SITE MAP

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A new article for ASCAS website

Seal top spoon of about 1570

David McKinley presents:

An Interesting Early English Spoon English version

The English seal top spoon was made from the early 16th century well into the 17th. It takes its name from the flat top surmounting a baluster which was cast separately and soldered onto the stem end of the spoon although there is no evidence that armorials were ever engraved on it to act as a seal.
Most of these flat "Seal" tops were round but until the latter part of the 16th century they were hexagonal in shape so that this spoon can be dated to the 16th century since it clearly has a hexagonal top. Further it is likely to be later in the century rather than earlier since earlier spoons had much more fig shaped bowls whereas the bowl on this spoon is almost round. I date it to about 1570.
The spoon was not made in London or it would have the leopard's head struck in the bowl. Although the law required that the leopard's head be struck on all wrought silver only the Goldsmiths' Company of London were assiduous in complying with this law and provincial spoons either have a town mark struck in the bowl or, on early ones, a maker's mark. Another way to tell that a spoon is of provincial make, although it is not clear in this illustration, is by the way in which the cast finial is fixed to the stem end. London made spoons had their finials soldered into a "V" notch cut into the stem end whereas the finials on provincial spoons were soldered on by means of a "lap joint"...
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New members

Welcome to new ASCAS members:

Michelle Chessell - Australia
Patricia Godfrey - USA
Pam Stanier - England UK

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Daniel Monk writes:
...I have found your site most helpful.
Perhaps you could help me.
I have a coffee pot with marks I'm unable to identify.
I would appreciate any information you may know about the photos below.
Kind regards,
Daniel Monk

Andrew J. Brasch writes:
... I hope somebody can help to identify the maker.
This is a beautiful small Austrian enamel on silver tazza.
There is a capital R and a very small mark next to it, not visible.
Andrew J. Brasch

Only a hypothesis: could be Hermann Ratzersdorfer, see the article in our website Historismus Silver-Gilt Dessert Set by Hermann Ratzersdorfer a specialist on this type of enamelling.
Giorgio Busetto

Demetrios Leontaris writes:
... I just acquired a metal box. It has a dragon etched onto the top and underneath these little stamps.
Anything you can tell me about it?
Demetrios Leontaris

A silverplate mark of Friedman Silver Co, see my website at

Céline Cadillac writes:
... My Last acquisition ... PAIR OF BUCKLE OF CAPE ARGENT MASSIF 1819. It dates from between 1819 and 1820
It has several punches:
- One head of Vieillard: 1st title (950/1000 M)
- One Mask: Average warranty, Paris
- Two Crab:
- Goldsmith: an open compass - GD - a branch of holly
- A head of Minerva on the right: punch of average guarantee of Paris between 1809 and 1819. Trials of countermarking having been made to the office of the guarantee of Paris on 1 August 1817, one can find this punch insulated with countermark.
Weight of the 2 pieces: 25 grams (12 + 13)
Total length of the 2 pieces: 14 cm
Height of 1 piece has its largest diameter: 5 cm
I did not succeed in discovering the goldsmith hiding under this punch - an open compass - G D (between 1819 and 1838) if someone can help me? Thanks in advance!
Céline Cadillac

Replies to questions

Robin Holmes receives this answer about the mark of his bowl
(see December 2016 Newsletter)

Robert Massart writes
The maker's mark, Robin Holmes is asking for, belongs to the silversmith company Saint Médard, 5 rue Froissart, Paris.
Active since 1898 till present. The symbol of the mark SM is the cane of the Bishop St Médard (crosse de l'Evêque Saint Médard).
Robert Massart

Sean Flynn receives this answer about the mark of his inkwell
(see December 2016 Newsletter)

Janjaap Luijt writes
As a response to the question of Sean Flynn, I would say it's Stockholm 1880. Unfortunately I don't have a clue to the maker, because I lack a decent reference.
met vriendelijke groet,
Janjaap Luijt

Rod Hall writes
I can help Sean Flynn to identify and date his inkwell. I note he says they were bought in Sweden 5 years ago and that is indeed where the silver cap is made, not France. The cap was made in 1880 (from the B6 date code) by the firm known as GuldsmedsAktieBolaget, (translates as "Goldsmiths Company Limited") who used the initials GAB as their makers mark. The final stamp is the town mark for Stockholm, showing the head of Saint Erik.
Rod Hall


In this column we presents a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page
Standard Silver Co Ltd, Toronto, 1896 advertisement

This month ASCAS presents an 1896 advertisement of


The firm succeeded in 1893 to Acme Silver Co. in the production of silverplated flatware, holloware and hotel ware.
The firm merged with International Silver Co of Canada Ltd in c. 1912.

Standard Silver Co. of Toronto - Toronto, Canada Standard Silver Co. of Toronto - Toronto, Canada Standard Silver Co. of Toronto - Toronto, Canada


In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary"
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silverplate crumb tray & scoop: Van Bergh Silverplate Co


The crumb scoop is a dinner table accessory used to remove crumbs from the table during the meal before serving the dessert.
It has a flat horizontal blade and a curved rim on the rear side to retain the crumbs.
The long horizontal handle is made of silver or in other suitable material as bone, ivory, mother-of-pearl, wood or ivorine.
The scoop tray is a small tray having one flat undecorated edge into which the crumbs are swept by means of an accompanying brush or a crumbs scoop.
The blades were often engraved with floral motifs but sterling silver items are rare and most of them are made in silverplate.....


In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page


Omar Ramsden (born Sheffield, 21 Aug 1873; died London, 9 Aug 1939).
The son of a silver and electroplate manufacturer, he was apprenticed to a company of silversmiths and attended evening classes at Sheffield School of Art where he met Alwyn Carr (1872-1940) and then both had summer classes at the Royal College of Art of London.
In 1898 Ramsden set up a partnership with Alwyn Carr and opened a studio in Chelsea (London) moving soon after the workshop to Fulham. Later the studio and the workshop were reunited in the same location in Seymour Place (St. Dunstan's building). There they exploited the fashionable taste for handmade silver of the Arts and Crafts Movement and, with the help of skilled artisans, made articles adapted from Gothic and Renaissance designs with Celtic-style inscriptions, which became their trademark....


In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page




family crest: BAGSHAWE

The crest of Bagshawe family.

The crest is described as 'an arm erect, in hand a bugle horn'

The crest was found on a silverplate wine bottle coaster, maker William Hutton & Sons, Birmingham

wine bottle coaster with family crest: BAGSHAWE

William Hutton & Sons mark on wine bottle coaster with family crest: BAGSHAWE

Closing our January 2017 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Andrew J. Brasch, Céline Cadillac, Demetrios Leontaris, Janjaap Luijt, David McKinley, Robert Massart and Daniel Monk, for their precious contributions.

Giorgio Busetto


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