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Giorgio Busetto
ASCAS Secretary


This month ASCAS newsletter is published without its monthly column "MEMBERS' WINDOW".
The reason of this absence is obvious: the "store" of material suitable for publication in this column is empty and no new work was proposed this month by ASCAS members.
I need the aid of any potential author who could contribute to the ASCAS newsletter writing about his collection or single objects, sharing with others (anonymously if necessary) his knowledge or the result of his research.
Beware, ASCAS lives of your contributes and can offer only what you are available to offer.
Fortunately, ASCAS is not already dead and has not yet reached the end of his existence. Some excellent articles are still available and will be presented in next months.
But, within a few months, missing your help, ASCAS will be forced to reduce the frequency of its contacts and the Newsletter published, randomly, when sufficient material will be gathered.
Thanks again for your past and future help.
Giorgio Busetto

A new article for ASCAS website

London 1790/1791 mark: Hester Bateman
Giovanni Ciceri presents:

British Hallmarks - A cycle at a time (I)
London Hallmarks: 1776-1795 (XVI CYCLE):
 English version
.....In the following tables are presented several examples of the XVI cycle of London Hallmarks. This cycle begins with a small Roman "a" as date letter for 1776/1777 and ends with a small Roman "u" for 1795/1796.
The punch enclosing the date letter is a shield with a pointed base with chamfered upper corners (clipped off), but occasionally it can be found with a rounded base....
click here English version

New members

Welcome to new ASCAS members:  

Bob Burke - USA
Carl Goddard - Australia
Jaak Hermans - Belgium
Theodore Hornstein - USA
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Mail to ASCAS: e-mail

Andrea Menarini writes:
... I'm trying to identify a set of 7 knives, 6 individual and a serving one.
The silver pieces of the serving knife bear an hallmark that seems to be German (number 13 under AH letters).
I'd be very grateful for any information you can supply.
Thank you
Andrea Menarini

Paul Skippen writes:
... I would appreciate any help that your readers could give me about who the silversmith is on this pair of German asparagus tongs.
I have made all the normal searches but have so far been unable to identify him.
Thanking you kindly
Paul Skippen

Norman Flay writes:
... Can you help to identify this Sauce Boat please?
The markings are on top it looks like IRM below this it is EPN may be a C or S then A1.
I have added two pictures in the attachments
Many Thanks
Norman Flay
The part underside of the mark is EPNS for Electro Plated nickel Silver.
I'm unable to identify the maker. Any suggestion will be appreciated.
Giorgio Busetto

Judith Brown writes:
...I have a silver "Knight on Horseback 14th C" as the base is marked, it is hallmarked MAGRINO the a few very tiny marks, then Re, more tiny marks, then 180 and yet more tiny marks. It is beautifully detailed, lions on knights helmet and armour. It stands 23cm high. The pennant and limbs are articulated.
Can anyone tell me whether this is solid silver and anything more about it?
Thank you.
Judy Brown
The maker is Italian. To try to identify the maker is necessary to know what is written on the small mark on the right side of your photo.
I read the number (possibly 176) but I'm unable to read the initials of the province (possibly FI, Florence).
Your knight is made whit a tin sheet of sterling silver filled with another material.
You can read information about Italian marks (included the "filled" materials) in my web site at
Giorgio Busetto

David Nikogosian writes:
...Recently I purchased three hollow ware silver-plated objects, made by one French and two German companies.
Each item is bearing the same logo "SH" or "HS".
Does anybody know to which company this logo belongs?
David Nikogosian

Sharon Blasgen writes:
...I have a pair of antique salvers. The marks indicate that they were made in London in 1755. However, the maker's mark is a scripted W followed by a lower case b. Despite checking numerous sources I could not find any marks with this combination of initials.
Can you help identify the maker?
Sharon Blasgen

Cor Oostveen writes:
...Some time ago a friend of mine bought a very nice piece with the hallmarks as on these pictures. Unhappily, despite some research, we were not able to trace the maker, the year of make and the country.
Because of the double headed eagle in one hallmark we think it is an old Russian Rococo piece but we look for a confirmation, also for the maker. The V is a Dutch import mark.
Can you please help me?
Cor Oostveen
The double headed eagle is a mark used in many countries (Austria, Germany, Russia, Parma and Palermo in Italy). It was used also in the Netherlands by the Nijmegen Assay Office in the period 1811/1814.
I hope that someone of our readers will be able to help you.
Giorgio Busetto

Replies to questions

Raphael Zaphiropoulos receives this answer to the question about his spoon and fork set  
(see December 2010 Newsletter)
Pietro Fantazzini writes:
... The images of this set appear in the 1921 Soufflot catalog (see attached images).
Undoubtedly an oddity the application of all those marks of different manufacturers.
An hypothesis is that the same model was retailed by various makers, but was done for all in the same manufacture. This practice was largely used at that time in Italy. You can find flatware bearing the marks Buccellati, Menzani, Broggi and others but manufactured by Clementi in Bologna.
Pietro Fantazzini

Jean-Gabriel Lamorte writes:
... About the question of Raphael Zaphiropoulos. The marks refer to 1 Aucoc André, 1887-1911-- 2 Compere Léontine Vve – 3 Fouquet-Lapar Georges, 1878-1891, (Tétard, 1880-act, Succ.) --, 4 Henin & Cie,1875-1985, (Odiot Succ., 1690-act.) - 5 Emile Puiforcat 1857-18-945, (JB Fuchs Prédéc.1833-1857)– 6 Henri Soufflot 1884-1940, (Olier & Caron, 1910-1936, Succ.) – 7 Tetard freres, 1910-act..
Jean-Gabriel Lamorte

Robert Massart writes:
I can give some information regarding questions of ASCAS members in past newsletters
Newsletter 38: question of Mario Galasso
The maker's mark is indeed of Veuve Léontine Compère, widow of Ernest Compère (1868-1888)
79 rue Quincampoix, Paris
N° de garantie : 3201
N° de préfecture : 10559
Active from 1888 till 1911
Symbol : a running rabbit
Newsletter 41: question of Gordon Tibbles
The maker's mark AD belongs to the silversmith Albert Deflon.
24 rue Beaubourg, Paris
N° de garantie : C1178
N° de préfecture : 12793
Symbol : a gabion
Active from 1907 till 1920
Newsletter 45: question of Eric Nolf
The makers mark belongs to Victor Saglier


In this column we present a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only
an 1881 advertisement of Walter Thornhill, London
This month we present the trade card of

At the Hand and Spur
near Exeter Exchange in Strand

Makes and Sell Spring Spurs in Silver
and Steel, and all other Sorts of Spurs, the
best Cock Spurs, Cork Screens, Watch Chains
Buckles, Pen Knives & Sisers, with several other
Things in the Steel way made in the best Manner
N3. My Silver Spurs and Cock Spurs are marked
with the two first Letters of my Name, and all my
Steel Spurs with my Sir Name at lenght


In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary" 
courtesy of home page
mazer with silver rim (c.1440)


Mazer is a drinking vessel of Germanic tradition made in maple wood in the form of a wide flat-bottomed shallow bowl without handles.
The early examples are usually deep with narrow lip bands, while the later ones are shallower with wider bands and an increased capacity.
These vessels were made from the 12th to the 16th century and it is supposed that the word "mazer" derives from the ancient German word "masa" meaning a spot or from the old Welsh word "masarn" meaning maple tree.... more


In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page

(successors of THOMAS SANSOM & SONS)

Thomas Sansom, plate worker at Norfolk Street, Sheffield, entered his mark at Sheffield Assay Office on December 22, 1808. Later the business was continued as Thomas Sansom & Sons, in partnership with his sons Abraham, John and William Sansom. In 1847 the business was acquired by James William Harrison, Henry Harrison and James William Howson, acting as Harrison Brothers & Howson.
James William Harrison retired in 1876 and the business was continued by his partners. Later they were joined in the partnership by George Hawson (son of J.W. Howson), Francis William Harrison (son of Henry Harrison) and John Brocksopp Wilkinson (nephew of J.W. Harrison)....


In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.


A silver spoon crest, with a dexter arm, in armour, embowed, in hand a broken spear
A dexter arm, in armour, embowed, in hand a broken tilting-spear.
The crest of Armistead, Caswell (Middlesex), Combes (of Cotham, Bristol), Cuthbert, Dancer (Ireland), Dymock or Dymoke (Staffordshire), Fearguson (Ireland), Ferguson (Scotland), Forster (Northumberland), Foster (London and Cambridgeshire), Gilbert (Herefordshire and Monmouthshire), Heley (England), Helly (England), Kemble (England), Mackenay (Ireland), Makareth (Lancashire), Makeroth (England), Michel, Montgomery, Palmer (Ireland), Smyth (Surrey).

The crest was found in a silver spoon hallmarked Dublin 1838, maker William Cummins

A silver spoon crest, with a dexter arm, in armour, embowed, in hand a broken spear

A silver spoon hallmarked Dublin 1838, maker William Cummins

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Closing our January 2011 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Sharon Blasgen, Judith Brown, Giovanni Ciceri, Pietro Fantazzini, Norman Flay, Jean-Gabriel Lamorte, Robert Massart, Andrea Menarini, David N. Nikogosyan, Cor Oostveen, Paul Skippen for their invaluable contributions.

Giorgio Busetto
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