ASCAS Association of Small Collectors of Antique Silver        newsletter # 86 July 2011     SITE MAP
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Exhibition halls at the Badische Landesmuseum, Karlsruhe
Dorothea Burstyn presents:

Three important exhibitions for the collector of modern silver and other metals  English version
"Frauensilber, Paula Straus, Emmy Roth & Co., Silberschmiedinnen der Bauhauszeit" (Silver made by women, Paula Straus, Emmy Roth & Co., Female silversmiths in the time of the Bauhaus) is a wonderful exhibition showing more than 180 objects, the majority from private collections and now for the first time introduced to the public. These female artists, many of them of Jewish origin, had been forgotten due to the political circumstances in the 1930s and 1940s. It is thanks to Dr. Reinhard Saenger's considerable energy dedicated to the research into the life and works of these artists that their lasting legacy for German silversmithing is now secured. The research proved especially difficult. Archives had been destroyed in WWII. Other private archives like the one of Bruckmann & Söhne had simply been discarded as their importance for the history of the German silver industry was not fully recognized.....

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New members

Welcome to new ASCAS members:  

Adrian Stuart Grond - Switzerland
Alexander Gyé-Jacquot - France
Cindy Kolodziejski - USA
John Simmons - USA
Joseph Smith - England UK
Nick Volk - Australia
Gary Wilkinson - England UK
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 Peter and Anne Bateman 1798
Joanne and Emmett Eldred present the second of their series of articles:

Our Collecting Guidelines - Originality (2)  English version

We try to only collect teapots with their "original" stands so originality of the combination is a key factor for us. The question of whether a teapot and stand were originally made as a pair or mated later is probably the most difficult of our assessments. At first blush, it would seem this determination should be fairly straightforward and dependent on answering two basic questions; "do the hallmarks match?" and "do the engravings match?" However, after examining and studying numerous examples one realizes this simplistic approach is likely too restrictive. The real question should probably be "were the teapot and stand paired contemporaneously or were they paired at a significantly later date"...

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Alan Yates writes:
...I wondered if members could assist with the identification of the mark on the underside of a salt that I bought in South Africa about 20 years ago. The size of the salt is 7.5 cm across x 115 gms, a good weight. The interior is gilded. Based on the style, my guess is that it is Georgian.
I naturally suspected that it could be a Cape silversmith but nothing in Stephan Welz' book entitled Cape Silver and Silversmiths. Also nothing in any of Wynyard Wilkinson's books on Indian and Indian colonial silver.
I should be most grateful for any assistance

Alan Yates writes:
...Another contribution to a future ASCAS magazine:
Images attached of two very good silver fish slices I bought in South Africa on an S Welz/Sothebys sale about 15 years ago. They were one lot, and although accurately described, when it came to the makers (for they are by two different makers) and country of origin, in the catalogue it was simply stated that they were ‘Continental’. Probably correct because the workmanship is of an extremely high standard. I would date both as ca 1815.
The first one (first four images) has an ivory handle, and the maker's mark seems to be 'CB' or 'CH'? Dot-engraved inscription on underside 'J.G.T. 26 Aug 1815' Total length 37 cms.
The second (last three images) has an ebony handle, and the maker's mark seems to be 'IM' ? No other marks or inscription. Total length 34 cms.
Could anyone shed further light on, in particular, the makers and country of origin?
Best wishes

Charles Deheselle writes:
...I'd wish to have information about the origin of this fork.
Thanks in advance for your help
Best regards
Charles Deheselle
Your item is silver plate (not sterling or solid silver) made by WW Harrison. Information about this maker in my web site at
Giorgio Busetto

Joseph Scerri writes:
...Please can you tell me who the maker of this cup is?
Best regards,
Joseph Scerri
The maker of the cup (hallmarked London 1906) is W. H. Jackson & Son. This mark was entered on 2nd September 1905.
The firm was created in c.1877 as a partnership of William Henry Jackson and Walter Chase and was active as W.H. Jackson & Son c. 1905 until c. 1910
Giorgio Busetto

Huub van der Sanden writes:
...I recently bought this 18th century spoon with for me unknown hallmarks.
Is there anyone who can help me?
Thank you
Huub van der Sanden

Christiane Soubeyrand writes:
...I am a new member. I need you help to identify the origin of this little pot.
Despite my research I can not find any info.
What do you think about? Can you help me with this identification?
Thanks in advance
Christiane Soubeyrand

Replies to questions

Bruno Bruni receives this answer about the mark of his vesta case 
(see June 2011 Newsletter)
Robert Massart writes:
The maker’s mark on Bruno Bruni's vesta case belongs to Alfred Inderbitzen, who was a Parisian contract manufacturer, operating at 153 rue Lamarck.
N° de garantie: 2406
N° de préfecture: 14853
Symbol: a horseshoe nail
Registration date of the maker: 20 March 1916
Robert Massart
Oskar M. Zurell writes:
French vesta case - Question of Bruno Bruni:
The vesta case is made by the Paris contractor silversmith Alfred Inderbitzen (by name it seems to be an Alsace?).
Details: Orfèvre Alfred Inderbitzen; Contract manufacturer; symbol: 'un clou de fer à cheval' = a nail of a horseshoe; number of warranty: 2406; number of préfecture: 14853; date of maker's mark registration: 20 March 1916; workshop address: 153 rue Lamarck, Paris 75.
This vesta case seems to be made, maybe in a little serie, to fulfil a contract order, in the workshop of Alfred Inderbitzen
Oskar M. Zurell

Simon Buxton receives this answer about the mark of his old Sheffield plate salver 
(see June 2011 Newsletter)
Oskar M. Zurell writes:
The centred piece prevents the hot tea-kettle to slide too much around.
We must imagine a servant who has to rush up just in time to serve the beloved "5 o'clock tea time"; but he has got also the order for some other activities.
My assumption of purpose of this salver's centred piece is, to prevent the hot tea-kettle to slide too much around when used in rush-up circumstances.
If now this centred piece becomes a nuisance? That seems to me, is not the problem of the piece itself, but that of the user; because it's used for the wrong purposes, for which it wasn't determined.
Collecting Silver could be done on several levels - and well in between these levels too.
The advanced collector, like as you imagine more then only the object itself - he is 'seeing' the objects appearance, determined from design, to production methods, to its circumstances of use, e.g. in this case as a servant's server.
Oskar M. Zurell


In this column we present a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only
a 1925 advertisement of Asprey's, London
This month ASCAS presents an ancient advertisement of
New Bond Street
The advertisement was published in the October 21, 1925 edition of Punch, or the London Charivari.
The page advertises Silver fountain pen & Silver Pencil, silver match & ash tray, silver combined reading glass pencil & paper knife and other objects.


In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary" 
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Aladdin lamp - cigar lighter


Cigar lighter is a type of lighter for cigars, usually resting on a table and sometimes made in fantasy form....... more


In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page leave your LIKE on facebook
Kirk Stieff trade mark  



Kirk Stieff Corporation was created in 1979 merging the ancient Baltimore silver companies Samuel Kirk & Son and Stieff Company.
The business was founded in 1815 in Baltimore by Samuel Kirk. After a partnership with John Smith (until 1820) the firm changed its name to Samuel Kirk & Son in 1846 when Henry Child Kirk entered in partnership with his father Samuel.
In 1861, when the other two sons (Charles D. and Clarence E. Kirk) entered the partnership, the name was changed to Samuel Kirk & Sons, reverting to Samuel Kirk & Son when they left the firm.....


In this column we present books, new or ancient, dealing with silver in all its aspects (history, marks, oddities...). This isn't a "book review" but only a fair presentation of some useful "tools" that anyone may have in the shelf of his bookcase.
ASCAS members are invited to contribute to this column
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In the "book on my shelf" of this month Karin Sixl-Daniell presents:


by Koszeghy Elemér
(the text is in Hungarian and German language)
This book was published in 1936 - essentially about Hungarian marks, only with a number of illustrations of tea sets etc. at the end of the book.
It is set out similar to Rosenberg and was written because the author Köszeghy Elemer felt that even in Rosenberg's book Hungarian marks had not been adequately presented.
The author writes that this had been his work from around 1910 onwards and that due to World War I, he almost gave up this project. He worked for a quarter of a century to compile the huge amounts of marks contained in this book.

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Closing our July 2011 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Dorothea Burstyn, Charles Deheselle, Jayne Dye, Joanne and Emmett Eldred, Robert Massart, Joseph Scerri, Karin Sixl-Daniell, Christiane Soubeyrand, Huub van der Sanden, Alan Yates and Oskar M. Zurell for their invaluable contributions.

Giorgio Busetto
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