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Two new articles for ASCAS website

faked mark
Christophe Ginter presents:

Fraud on silver taxes during the French Royalty Chalon sur Saône (France) 1762-1768 English version
Poinçons de fraude fiscale du XVIIIème siècle Chalon sur Saône (France) 1762-1768 version française

.....During a recent review by a private collector, regarding a table service, I have been discovering an exceptional silver item bearing faked hallmarks struck by the maker himself in order to escape silver taxes and warranty payments
In spite of its false marks, the fork, which is made of plain silver (a model called "uniplat") may be dated 1762-1768 and produced in the Burgundian town of Chalon-sur-Saône.......
click here English version    click here version française
wine taster with the snake-shaped handle
Michael Carter presents:

A pair of 18th century French wine tasters English version
Une paire de taste-vin français du XVIIIe siècle version française

.....In this article, I present two silver wine tasters by Jacques Famechon, who was admitted as a master silversmith in Paris on March 15, 1770 and was still active in 1787.
A wine taster, as its name implies, is for tasting wine and for observing its color, and several types existed in the 18th century in France, each one corresponding to a particular wine-making region. The types vary according to form of the handle and the presence or absence of decorative motifs. One can find wine tasters with a handle in the form of a snake, with a rolled handle, with a thumb-rest, with a shell- or lily-shaped handle or with no handle at all. A variant of the wine-taster is the so called hunting cup, which is very rare and much sought after. These types also varied according to their size, the smallest being used for spirits, medium-sized ones for wine and the largest for cider......
click here English version    click here version française

New members

Welcome to new ASCAS members:  

Daryl Adams - The Netherlands
Ruth Hunter - USA
Tom Maguire - USA
Rosemary Monahan - USA
John M. Sargent - USA
Paul Skippen - England UK
Neil Smith - USA
Huub van der Sanden - The Netherlands
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meat fork made by Gorham for Tiffany
Les Salvage presents:

Gorham & Co for Tiffany & Co English version

I am presenting here, a meat fork that appeared on Ebay, in March this year.
At the time, I was very surprised to see that it had been made by Gorham & Co for Tiffany & Co
Some members of ASCAS more knowledgeable than I am would not perhaps have been surprised, but I venture to guess that others would have, and so it is with these others in mind that I am sharing this information.....
click here
 English version 

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Stewart Hersey writes:
... I have made a short film about making a silver candlestick which I would like to share with your members via a link to it on my website.
It shows the traditional method used to make a spun candlestick, and I am sure it would be interesting for them.
Thank you,
Stewart Hersey
Stewart Hersey is the Managing Director of M. C. Hersey & Son Ltd.
The business started as Mills and Hersey around 1970 (mark M&H). In present days the firm is active at 87 Railway Road, Teddington, Middlesex.
The video follows, step by step, the traditional manufacture of a silver candlestick.
Follow this link to see the video
Giorgio Busetto

Haroune Toumani writes:
...I need help to identify the mark of this basket.
Thanks for your help
Haroune Toumani
The marks belong, presumably, to a German maker (silver plate).
I’m sorry, but I’m unable to identify the maker.
Giorgio Busetto

Ludo D’Haese writes:
...Is it possible to identify the maker on this German mark?
Ludo D’Haese
The maker is Wilhelm Rentrop, Altena i. Westfalen, Werkstatte fur Kirchengerate.
Giorgio Busetto

Allen Carlson writes:
...I have a question about a pair of Georg Jensen "Blossom" sugar tongs I just bought.
I seem to remember reading that the tongs should have a spring that kept the tongs open. The tongs that I bought do not have a spring action.
Do you think that they are defective?
Allen Carlson

Bruno Bruni writes:
...In my attachment I forward the images of a French niello silver, box shaped, vesta case. Decorated on the exterior with a cross-weave niello pattern. The hinged lid, when opened, reveals a striker plate (which is also hinged). The matches are kept below the striker plate.
Dimensions 54 x 24 x 12 mm, weight 38,4 grams.
Hallmarks: Small guarantee mark (boar's head) and an unidentified (M//D) makers mark.
My question is: can someone identify the maker?

Piero Eduardo writes:
...another question about the silver ring of a pipe marked B & Co into a rectangle, London 1913. On the briar the pipe bears the mark "Bewlay". Bewlay was a well known chain of English pipe stores owned by Salmon & Gluckstein active from the beginning of the 20th century until the 1980s.
I'd wish to know any possible information about the silver mark.
Thanks in advance
Piero Eduardo
B&Co is the hallmark of Bewlay & Co Ltd. Some further information is available in the "Tobacconists, Pipe Makers and Pipe Mounters" section of my web site
Giorgio Busetto

Eddy Huysmans writes:
...The little note "Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items" made me think of a coconut cup I bought about a year ago.
It has no silver marks, but I think it is British, Irish or Scottish from about 1800.
Maybe someone can give me some information about the crest or the monogram.
Sincerely Yours,
Eddy Huysmans

Mario Galasso writes:
...I'm working on a group of Mexican silver of the eighteenth century on behalf of a friend of the French archaeologist DRASSM (French Government) who is digging a wreck near Montpellier (Joanne Elisabeth, sunk in 1755).
While I have identified almost all the marks, I am missing the full name and details of the silversmith.
The marks Gosa / LEZ and Goza / LES relate to the assayer (ensayador mayor) Don Diego de la Cueva Gonzales, Ciutad Méjico, 1731-1777 according to some, others are between 1731 and 1778 or 1788, or between 1741 and 1775 or between 1733 and 1778. I need to know the periods of use of his three punches (Goza / SLE or Gosa / or GÑZ LEZ).
The problem is: the brand GON / GORA attributable to silversmith Gongora, a name common enough in Mexico at that time. I need to further refine the date when this silversmith was active (between 1731 -top mark Gonzales- and 1755 -year of the sinking-).
Would be also useful to know the history of the marks 'Gonzales' to restrict the chronological range.
Gongora should have worked in Ciudad Méjico (Mexico City).
Can you help?
Mario Galasso

Geldolph Everts writes:
...When in Armenia, I purchased four spoons, first three of the same set (with Armenian initials engraved), then much later one additional spoon of a different set. All four have the same marks. The assayer is Victor Savinkov, but in existing reference works I have not found the master; the Cyrillic letters appear to be Russian mark.
I was wondering if Postnikova could help out. She will be updating her wonderful book all the time ( I have the 1995 edition) with more recent discoveries, so I might be lucky...
With many thanks, as always, and kind regards,
Geldolph Everts

Claudio Morelli writes:
...I believe that this uncommon object is a truffles' slicer. What I don't know is who is the maker (Giuseppe Giovara?) and when he was active.
Claudio Morelli
A similar mark (a harp between letters G and G) was used by Giuseppe Giuvara, Torino ....1822-1824...
It's probable that, later, the symbol was maintained and used by a descendant of this silversmith (anyway, after 1870, considering that the piece is marked '800').
Giorgio Busetto

Eddie Robinson writes:
...I have a question if you can help: I have a pair of sugar tongs with the following mark.
Could you shed some light on it for me?
Have a great day.
The maker of your sugar tongs is, possibly, Edwin Howard & Son, 90 Pond Street, Sheffield, active 1863-1870. Further information is available in my web site at
Giorgio Busetto

Jean-Christophe Malguy writes:
...I contact you because I can not identify these marks.
I send you some pictures. Photo # 1: I think that is a hallmark of Paris "discharge", period 1717-1722
Photo No. 2 and 3: silversmith's mark, initials P and L over a star under a fleur-de-lys with a crown and surrounded by two "grains" (perhaps Louis Ponay?)
Photo No. 4: what I believe to be a poincon de charge (A surmounted by a crown) Paris 1717-1722
Photo No. 5: D crowned:I don't know what is
Jean-Christophe Malguy
Any help will be appreciated
Giorgio Busetto

Replies to questions

Helen receives these answers to the question about her unidentified item 
(see June 2010 Newsletter)
Pamela Coates writes:
This looks like a ladies pocket watch holder, or rings, depending upon the size of the three hooks. The center is for hatpins.
I have had items like this over the years
Thanks for sharing your unusual shaped holder
Pamela Coates
Carolyn Meacham writes:
The item below above is a hanging pin cushion / ring holder. It could also be used for hat pins.
I would be willing to bet that the maker's mark is ALLtd (Adie Lovekin, Ltd).
They made a lot of these.

Geldolph Everts receives this answer to the question about his silver holders/stands  
(see June 2010 Newsletter)
Simon Buxton writes:
I can throw a little light on the glass holders submitted by Geldolph Everts.
The number he queries (Rd 655681) is a national British Registered Design number introduced in 1884 and used up until around 1932 - a sort of copyright. His number was issued in 1917 and he is quite close in suggesting it was a pattern number.
As a rough guide the number 300,000 was issued in 1900. The number is a guide to when the design was registered, but not the date of an individual piece, though in this instance we have a hallmark date letter. It covered a range of decorative goods including ceramics and wasn't limited to silver ware.
Simon Buxton

Neil Hodgson receives this comment about the marks of his reliquary 
(see April 2010 Newsletter)
David Mckinley writes:
As my particular field of research has been early English hallmarking my eye was caught by the marks on Neil Hodgson’s reliquary in the April newsletter which, at first glance, would appear to be English.
On closer examination however these marks cannot be identified as any that I have come across before and I therefore tried to place them in some other country. This I have been unable to do although if any fellow member can do so the problem will be solved.
In the absence of any current alternative therefore I offer the following hypothesis:
The two centrally placed marks would appear to be the English lion passant guardant and an English date letter. The two other marks I have been unable to identify.
There were several years in which the upper case letter ‘H’ was used in London but the most likely year in this case I suggest is 1723 although the punch outline is wrong for this date. The outline to the lion is too distorted to be sure of but the absence of the leopard’s head is suspect although it was omitted from small work such as teaspoons at this date.
English reliquaries are somewhat uncommon since they are usually of Roman Catholic origin and relate to a period when that faith was outlawed in England.
I have come across a communion cup in a Roman Catholic Church which has no hallmarks but is struck three times with the maker’s mark and he was Jewish. It can be dated to 1745 by the inscription under the foot.
If Neil’s reliquary is English my belief is that it was, like the communion cup, made for a recusant
(editor's note: a person, esp. a Roman Catholic, who refused to attend the services of the Church of England) probably in the early 18th century and that the marks on it are false and were made to give the appearance of those current at the time.
The unrecognisable marks were struck because a piece of this date would be expected to carry four marks, the additional ones being the maker’s mark and the leopard’s head. Presumably this maker did not wish to be identified.
This is only a theory and I am open to any other suggestions.
David Mckinley


A temporary exhibition from 27th March - 3rd October 2010 in the Stiftung Schlesisches Museum zu Goerlitz S.b.R., GOERLITZ (Germany)
The foundation of the German Empire in 1871 led to an economic upturn from which Silesia's gold and silver manufacturers also benefited. This exhibition is the first attempt to display the wide range of articles produced by the many workshops and shops which appeared at that time in Silesian towns. We are grateful for numerous loans from public and private collections in Germany and Poland without which this exhibition would not be possible.
Visitors will be able to admire an impressive variety of coffee and tea services, candelabras, goblets, plates and trays, prizes and military memorabilia, chalices, ciboria and monstrance's, as well as an array of cutlery, including a surprising amount of individual pieces designed for special purposes and for special occasions:
see at
The exhibition can only be seen in Görlitz, and is accompanied by an illustrated catalogue with a list of brand names and descriptions of the then most important Silesian manufacturers.
The soft bound catalogue includes some black and white, and many colour photographs, detailed descriptions, and measuring of all 120 shown objects.
Rainer Lemor, a very engaged descendant from Julius Lemor, describes there also 13 of the then active companies in details of history, and production program. Also he shows 220 maker's marks and trade marks; with indication of where described, and possible timeframe of use.
Included is also a list of literature.
If a visit is impossible during exhibition, but also for preparing a visit, the catalogue (ISBN 978-3-9813510-2-6) could be ordered on line through the Museum shop:
see at:
Unfortunately the text is in German and Polish only, but pictures and marks can be easily "read" and understood by anyone interested in the matter.
Address: Stiftung Schlesisches Museum zu Goerlitz S.b.R.
Untermarkt 4
D-02826 Goerlitz / Germany
Tel. +49 3581 8791 0
Fax +49 3581 8791 200

Thanks to Oskar M. Zurell for his information


In this column we present a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only
an ancient advertisement of Joseph Elliott & Sons, Sheffield
This month we present an ancient advertisement of

Granville Works, Sheffield
Manufacturers of
Cutlery, Silver, and Electro-Plate

Joseph Elliot and Sons (Sheffield) Limited was established as a private limited company in 1927. The company's history however dates back to the Joseph Elliot and Sons business that was founded in 1795 at 4 Hollis Croft, Sheffield. In 1921 Joseph Elliot and Sons was incorporated by Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers Limited. The firm was active at Hollis Croft (until 1923), Spital Works, Spital St. (until 1926), Granville Works, 1 Sylvester St., Sheffield (from 1926) changing its name to Cutlery Agencies Limited. In the early 1970s the firm was taken by J Dewsnap Bowler Limited, Sylvester Works, Sylvester Street, Sheffield


In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary" 
courtesy of home page
Reed & Barton silver wager cup


The origins of these cups are 'Jungfraubecher' made in Germany (Nuremberg) around 1565 and in use for all of the 17th century. The cup has the look of a young girl with a wide long skirt in the form of a cup supporting over her head a smaller swivelling cup.
The silver wager cup was created for use in wedding's banquets, where the spouse drank wine from the bigger cup and offered his bride to drink from the smaller, avoiding pouring out even a drop of its content....


In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page
Home of Reed & Barton - Silverware, Taunton, Mass.



The Reed & Barton story began in 1824, when Isaac Babbitt created a new metal alloy - "Britannia metal" - in his Taunton, Massachusetts pewter shop.
Babbitt joined forces with craftsmen Henry G. Reed and Charles E. Barton to produce this innovative, higher quality pewter ware. When Babbitt encountered financial difficulties, Reed & Barton offered to take control and began manufacturing products under their own names. The fledgling company's goods reflected uncompromising standards of excellence, starting with its initial silverplate products and extending to the exquisite sterling silver creations that resulted from the silver discoveries of the late 1800s....


In this column we present books, new or ancient, dealing with silver in all its aspects (history, marks, oddities...). This isn't a "book review" but only a fair presentation of some useful "tools" that anyone may have in the shelf of his bookcase.
ASCAS members are invited to contribute to this column
(click to enlarge images)
The "book on my shelf" of this month presents:
Historia das marcas e contrastes: metais nobres em Portugal, 1401-2003 Historia das marcas e contrastes: metais nobres em Portugal, 1401-2003
metais nobres em Portugal
Maria Nogueira Pinto
Medialivros Actividades Editoriais, s.a., Lisboa, 2003


In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.


Reade crest on tureens made by Creswick

This armorial is engraved on a pair of Old Sheffield Plate sauce tureens made by Creswick, dating to around 1820 and is unusual in being a personal rather than a family design. The armorial has been traced as belonging to Lt Col Sir Thomas Reade CB whose family originated from Congleton in Cheshire.
He served in the Napoleonic wars commanding gunboats protecting Sicily and later was part of the garrison on the island of St Helena where he was present at the death of Napoleon in exile in 1821. Afterwards he served as British Consul in Tunis until his death in 1849.
The main part of the armorial is the shield containing a cross and sheaves of wheat which belonged to the Reade family. At the bottom of the armorial three decorations are hanging. These were all granted to Sir Thomas himself . They consist of the Companion (military) of the Order of the Bath (CB), the Order of the Turkish Crescent, founded in 1799 and the Illustrious Royal Order of St. Ferdinand and Merit, an Order of Knighthood of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.
The motto FIDEI ET MERITO unusually is that of the St Ferdinand Order rather than of the Reade family.


Closing our July 2010 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Bruno Bruni, Simon Buxton, Allen Carlson, Michael Carter, Ludo D’Haese, Jayne Dye, Piero Eduardo, Geldolph Everts, Mario Galasso, Christophe Ginter, Stewart Hersey, Eddy Huysmans, Jean-Christophe Malguy,Claudio Morelli, Eddie Robinson, Les Salvage, Haroune Toumani, Oskar M. Zurell for their invaluable contributions.

Giorgio Busetto
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