ASCAS Association of Small Collectors of Antique Silvernewsletter # 142 March 2016 SITE MAP

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Jolyon Warwick James presents:

The Eleven O' Clock Club English version

Despite its name the eleven o'clock club actually meets at 10.30 am in a pub in Portobello Road. It is not a formal "club" at all but an informal group of like-minded collectors, enthusiasts and academics who meet for tea, coffee (not alcohol) and an exchange of ideas and oddities in silver plus a show and tell of the morning's purchases. On Saturday 27th June, seven people filled the table with tea pots, cups, saucers, sugar sachets, silver, and a cacophony of debates.

A particularly interesting conundrum was tabled by Tony Dove, a luminary and veteran of these meetings. May I immediately apologise for any deficiency in the photography. It was undertaken under difficult circumstances - a pocket camera, a crowded table littered with half full cups, busily criss-crossed by silver objects and competing discussions. The plain reverse of an A4 sheet (listing the Silver Spoon club's spoon auction results on the other side) was pressed into service as a photographic backcloth....
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New members

Welcome to new ASCAS members:

Leona Ambuldeniya - Canada
Elizabeth Koble - USA
Patrizia Comerci - Italy

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silver spoon of unknown origin

Alan Yates presents:

An unusual pseudo mark English version

Most members will, I suspect, be familiar with the term ‘pseudo marks’ and may have encountered pieces of silver with such marks. Very briefly, a pseudo mark is a false or counterfeit mark. Some are particularly sophisticated, others less so. I collect colonial silver and have seen numerous examples and indeed purchased some pieces because I find them of interest provided the seller values the item accordingly, i.e. at a lower value than the identical item with a genuine hallmark. In my experience, I have seen more on Chinese export silver than any other category of silver. Most pseudo marks are intended to mislead the buyer that the item is English on the basis of an array of alphabetic letters, lions passant, and crown or leopard’s heads, etc.....
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Neal Trzebiatowski writes:
... I came across an antique presentation cup of some sort that I have, but cannot identify the maker, or other information from the hallmark.
I was wondering if you've ever seen this Mark, or can decipher it.
Thank you
Neal Trzebiatowski

The maker is Corbell & Co, see my website at
Giorgio Busetto

Alan Yates writes:
... It might be interesting to canvass the attitude of the members towards inscriptions on a piece of silver.. My thoughts are briefly as follows:
I do not like an object that has had an inscription erased; very unfortunate and prejudices its value, but it still may be worth acquiring depending on all the other usual considerations.
If it is a well done inscription, and with of historic or political interest together with a date, in my opinion the value is enhanced. If it is a gift from an anonymous Bert to Emma, in my opinion I’d rather have no inscription, but I would never contemplate its erasure.
The object in the image attached is a small glass coaster on three small bracket feet approx. 9 cm diameter. It commemorates the win in class 3 of the 1973 Cape to Rio yacht race and all the crew members probably received one each in addition to a trophy awarded to the skipper of the boat. Unfortunately, in my opinion, it does not show the name of the yacht.
It is well made and a good weight. Logically it would be Brazilian silver but I am not familiar with any South American marks. It is well marked and I hope someone in the association can enlighten me.
I bought it in Cape Town about ten years ago.
Alan Yates

Alan Johnson writes:
... I hope you can help me identify the maker and date of a teapot I bought recently.
It would appear to be the initials M & S, what appears to be a beaver, the letter S in a shield cartouche and finally the letter A1.
Thanking you in anticipation
Alan Johnson

The maker is Maxfield & Sons, see my website at
Giorgio Busetto

Mrs G. Brown writes:
... I am hoping you can help me to identify the markings on this toast rack. I have looked endlessly on the internet your site showing silver marks but so many look the same to me that I am trying to get a more accurate time, etc.
Thank you in advance for any help you can give me.
Mrs G. Brown

The date is Sheffield 1893, the maker is Atkin Brothers, see my website at
The retailer is Birks, see my website at
Giorgio Busetto


In this column we presents a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page
Burgdorfer Silberwarenfrabik Otto Kropp, ancient advertisement

This month ASCAS presents a c. 1971 advertisement of:


A firm founded by Gustav Haegermann in 1821 and still active in Schillelager Str. 3, Burgdorf (Germany). This advertisement was used in c. 1971 to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the foundation.

Burgdorfer Silberwarenfrabik Otto Kropp, silver mark
Burgdorfer Silberwarenfrabik Otto Kropp, silverplate mark

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In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary"
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Elkington & Co mark with crown
Elkington & Co mark without crown
Evans & Matthews mark with crown
Evans & Matthews mark without crown


From the very beginning the platers tried to make their wares resemble silver as closely as possible. It did no harm if the marks on them also looked rather like those on silver.
Since the early times Old Sheffield Plate presents initials and symbols in the same style and on the same places as did the silversmiths, sometimes repeating these devices to simulate the stamp of the assay office, the lion and the maker's mark.
When in 1773 the silversmiths of Sheffield and Birmingham obtained to establish assay offices for silverwork in both towns, the "crown" symbol was chosen to identify Sheffield Assay Office (the "anchor" was chosen for Birmingham).
One of the objective of the established Assay Office in Sheffield was to obtain some degree of control over the platers as the Parliament Act carried a clause prohibiting the striking of any letter, or letters, on goods "Made of metal, plated or covered with silver, or upon any metal vessel or other thing made to look like silver: the penalty being a fine of £ 100".... more


In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
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Barnabus (or Barnabas) Blackburn was active in London as silversmith and electroplater at 4 Leicester Place (1875-1881), at 49 Rupert Street (1882-1890), at 15 Rupert Street (1890-1916) at 9 Orange Street, Haymarket (1916-1928) and 95 Dean Street, Oxford Street from 1928 to 1933, when he went out of business......


In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page



Frost of Dolcorsllwyn crest

Upon a rock proper between two wings azure, each charged with a quatrefoil argent, a trefoil slipped azure (information courtesy Charles C. Cage)
The crest of Frost of Dolcorsllwyn
The crest was found on a silverplate tea tongs made by James Dixon & Sons
Frost of Dolcorsllwyn crest Frost of Dolcorsllwyn crest

Closing our MARCH 2016 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to G. Brown, Jolyon Warwick James, Alan Johnson, Neal Trzebiatowski and Alan Yates for their precious contributions.

Giorgio Busetto


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