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José Luis Muñoz writes:
... I'd wish to identify the marks of three plates I have. I
believe they are Italians but any suggestion or further
information would be greatly appreciated
Recibe un fuerte saludo de tu amigo español
José Luis
Your trays are indeed Italians and were made in Genova
(Genoa) and Torino (Turin)
The two oval trays are marked with:
-castle: the so called "torretta", identifying assay office of
Genova
-rectangle near the torretta; it's the date in three digits. The
date may be 81? for 181? (...1810 to ...1814)
-female head toward left with 2 (only on the small tray): not
identified. In my opinion this was a mark used by French
Government during its occupation of Genova (Genoa
became a French Department)
The round tray is marked with:
-GV into an oval: assayer's mark of Giuseppe Vernoni, son of
Michele Antonio, active in Torino (Turin) assay office from 1778
to 1824
-image of Saint Carlo Borromeo and letters GB aside: silversmith
Giuseppe Balbino, Torino 1775-1814 (Donaver-Dabbene, mark #
168). Giuseppe Balbino was a supplier of the Court of Savoy.
-crowned shield with cross and D 11 aside: used after the fall
of Napoleon, from 1814 to 1824, in the Kingdom of Sardinia to
mark large works of 916/1000 silver (silver fineness 11 denari).
Giorgio Busetto
Anne Adams writes:
... I am trying to identify the marks on this Russian silver
sleigh and I was hoping you could be of help. I used the
www.silvercollection.it website to identify the marks, but I am
unsure of my findings. I believe them to be:
Assayer - Aleksandr Alekseevich Smirnov
Year- 18?3
Silversmith Mark- Ivan Petrovich Khlebnikov
Town - Imperial Court Silversmith Imperial Cipher
I am attaching pictures of the markings if you would be so kind
to help me, I would appreciate it.
Sincerely,
Anne Adams
I'm not fully sure that the A.K mark (in Cyrillic)
belongs to Khlebnikov, as your item was assayed in Moscow while
Khlebnikov was active in St.Petersburg (Postnikova-Loseva doesn't
quotes A.K silversmiths with Moscow town mark and
www.silvercollection.it omits to identify A.K silversmith with
Moscow town mark). Anyway, Geoffrey Watts in his Russian
Silversmiths' Hallmarks (2006) writes that Khlebnikov
transferred to Moscow from St.Petersburg in 1871 (but doesn't
illustrate his mark) and possibly this is his mark.
A.C (Cyrillic) assayer can be A. Svyechin (Moscow 1862-1875) or
Alexander Smirnov (Moscow 1878-1895).
By the way, I'm the owner also of
www.silvercollection.it (it's my private website).
Giorgio Busetto
Garry Lillyman writes:
... I hope that you may be able to help me to more clearly
identify the maker and date of a pair of Italian candlesticks I
recently purchased. Attached are images of the maker's mark and
of a candlestick.
I would assume that they were made in Milan between 1944-1968,
perhaps 1940’s as the silver standard mark is not in an oval
cartouche.
The sticks are 17.5cm tall, good quality, heavy for their size
and possibly cast.
I look forward to any additional information you may be able to
provide.
Regards,
Garry Lillyman
The maker is Ilario Pradella, Via Tadino 44, Milano. The
mark refers to the period post 1944 until 1970.
Giorgio Busetto
Antony Priest writes:
... my name is Tony Priest, of Exmouth Devon, UK. Please see
attached file for photos of a bracelet that I have owned for a
number of years now. I have spent hours searching the internet
for information on it, and all I can work out is that it is from
Moscow or St. Petersburg?
Any other information could shed any other light. I would very
much appreciate it.
Kind regards
Tony
The bracelet bears St.Petersburg mark (kokosnik head
toward right, 1908-1926).
Maker's mark G.P in Cyrillic isn't registered in
Postnikova-Loseva book. A GP mark (without dot between) belongs
to Grigory Pankratym, (St. Petersburg 1874-1908).
Giorgio Busetto
Andrew McCarthey writes:
... I was wondering if you might be able to help me, I have a
small piece of silver in the shape of a 5 pointed star, It
measures 1 3/4 inches from point to point, it has the lion
passant and the leopard's head for London and the date letter "a"
for 1916. There is also the maker's mark HTL&Co but I can not
seem to find them anywhere: I have been told that it might be
HENRY.T.LAMB but I am not sure.
Is there any chance that you might be able to help me?
Thanking you in advance for your assistance.
A.McCarthey
Your photo isn't well readable. Anyway I believe that
your identification may be confirmed.
The mark HTL&Co into a rectangle was registered in London on
24th October 1905 by William Isaac Stiffen, "sole partner" of H.T.
Lamb & Co, gold & silver workers.
Giorgio Busetto
Tammi Kiser-Sparks writes:
... I have three glass bottle with silver tops that have what I
think are English marks.
The silver is marked with JP & Co and on the inside of one of
the silver lids are the words London, John Po..nd, JP& Co.
I don’t know what the word after John is but I suspect it is the
word Pound. There are also a lion's face, the letter S and and
lion’s profile on the silver tops.
I have taken photos of each and have attached them to this email.
Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Tammi Kiser-Sparks
The maker is indeed John Pound & Co (this mark was
registered in 1904 and 1905).
The firm was founded by Henry Pound in 1823.
Giorgio Busetto
Stephanie Andersen writes:
...I have owned a mysterious silver piece made by WMF. I bought
the object 40 years ago in an antique shop in Denmark. I have
never been able to figure out what it was for and hope you can
help me!
I have attached a photo. The piece is 10" tall and 6" in
diameter at the base.
I look forward to anything you can tell me.
Thank you.
Stephanie Andersen
PS- The actual mark on the bottom is, "WMFM".
I have no knowledge about the use of this piece (an
epergne?). Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Giorgio Busetto
Replies to questions
Sue Tiffin
receives these replies about her "pip tray"
(see October Newsletter)
Pamela Coates writes:
... I had these items years ago, and purchased it
directly from lady who told me they were for "ashes" as
they were individual ashtrays that clipped on side of
saucer for when "ladies" had tea.
Pamela
Robert Massart writes:
... The so called "pip tray" mentioned by Sue
Tiffin is indeed clipped on the side of a dish primarily
to put bones or skin (chicken, fish) on it, in order to
leave more place on the dish when eating a big meal.
I rather would call it a bone tray whereas, indeed, it
could also be used to put seeds on it when eating fruit.
Attached pictures are of a recent metal model still in
use in Belgium.
Robert
Joyce
Colpetzer receives these replies about her
serving set
(see October Newsletter)
Karin Sixl-Daniell writes:
... This is an ice-cream serving set,
specifically for ice cream bombes; similar sets
can be found on Ebay from time to time
Karin
Nathalie Bourreau writes:
... Concerning German service, two parts:
this is not a service with aspic but a service
with ice cream
Nathalie
Also my first idea was that these items
were ice cream servers. My hypothesis "aspic
server" was based on an image of a similar item
found in Replacements Ltd web page at
http://www.replacements.com/piecetype/flat3.htm
Giorgio Busetto
Robert Massart
writes:
Dear Giorgio,
When reading the article by Prof David N.
Nikogosyan
'Marks of European Silverplate' I noticed
the similarity with the marks in my article 'Powdering
with Style' (ASCAS
article nr91) and my members' window (
nr41) 'Two Vodka Servers from East Europe'.
The Czechoslovakian powder puff box described in
above mentioned article has the same rosette
mark, however without the name SANDRIK.
In the member's window one of the vodka servers
shows the rosette mark and SANDRIK in a triangle
(which I erroneously indicated BAMBRIK).
Maybe that the firm marked silver items only
with a rosette without the firm's name.
Anyway, I am very pleased to learn a lot more
about these marks and the SANDRIK firm and that
I can correct my writings accordingly.
Kind regards,
Robert
"A PAGE per MONTH"
In this column we
present a page obtained from makers' brochures,
books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever
other printed paper related to silver, which may
be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low
resolution" level and for private and personal
use only
This month ASCAS presents
pages of a 1912 catalog of the "Orfevrerie d'Art
MIELE & Co - Paris - Lyon - Marseille - Bordeaux
"A WORD per MONTH"
In this column we
presents an abstract from a page of the "What is?
Silver Dictionary"
courtesy of
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TANKARD
Originally the name "tankard" meant
a vessel for carrying water, but about
the middle of the 16th century it came
to denote an article that was
principally utilized for holding beer.
It superseded the beaker, and was an
improvement upon that article in that
the tankard had a lid and a handle.
Tankards are scarcely ever found except
in beer drinking countries; that why so
many old German, Norwegian and English
are in existence.
In England, at the commencement of the
17th century, tankards were made much
larger with the sides straight, and
often chased with sea monsters, flowers,
fruits and strapwork......
more
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"A BOOK ON MY SHELF"
In this column we
present books, new or ancient, dealing with
silver in all its aspects (history, marks,
oddities...). This isn't a "book review" but
only a fair presentation of some useful "tools"
that anyone may have in the shelf of his
bookcase.
ASCAS members are invited to contribute to this
column
(click to enlarge images)
The "book on the shelf" of this month
presents:
HISTORIC SILVER OF THE COLONIES AND ITS
MAKERS
by Francis Hill Bigelow
The MacMillan Company
New York - 1917
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Closing our NOVEMBER 2008 edition
of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its
content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great
help.
My thanks to Stephanie
Andersen, Anne Adams, Pamela Coates, Jayne Dye,
Christophe Ginter, Tammi Kiser-Sparks, Garry Lillyman,
Andrew McCarthey, Robert Massart, José Luis Muñoz,
Antony Priest, Karin Sixl-Daniell, JoAnne Wilkinson, for
their invaluable contributions.
Giorgio Busetto
Secretary
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newsletter # 54 - NOVEMBER 2008
