ASCAS Association of Small Collectors of Antique Silvernewsletter # 148 September 2016 SITE MAP

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silver decanter labels

Maurice Meslans presents:

An English 'Fake' Mark On Decanter Labels English version

Sometimes marks just don't make any sense. Anyone studying marks has a collection of unknowns; often they aren't on expensive items. Some people, "experts", like to say that any marks they don't know or understand are just fakes. Dealers often just ignore the question as not worth answering or bothering with.
Personally, while I like discovering information on an expensive piece of silver, sometimes it is as much fun researching an unusual mark on something less expensive such as a spoon. In fact there is an argument that says small items are less likely faked than large pieces. Why would someone bother faking a cheap item?
This two decanter labels are an example of interesting study pieces. They weigh a total of 1.1 troy oz. and are 6.6 cm wide.
They have a mark which can only be a copy of that of the partnership of Thomas Wallis II & Jonathan Hayne from 1810...
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Robin Gibson writes:
... I write with a request for help to identify the stamp on a set of fruit knives and forks.
The cutlery is small and the mark very tiny. It has BMF 'bear' image and below looks like 66 or GG
Are you able to advise me?
Robin Gibson

Trevor Cofer writes:
... I had a question regarding a hallmark I was unsure of. It looks like a "DW" to me, but isn't in a rectangle. It is in almost a batman outline. I have attached a picture of it. I noticed you had a David Willaume hallmark picture and was wondering if you could help me identify this hallmark.
It's is a trade silver gorget recovered from a Creek Indian site in Alabama. Because of the crown, I was wondering if it was a piece gifted to the Indians by the British, for any one of a variety of reasons.
I have seen several without makers marks, some with just the initials, but very few with any additional markings.
I really appreciate your help,
Trevor Cofer

The shape doesn't correspond to the mark of David Willaume II. The mark of Dennis Wilks (Grimwade 519) bears some resemblance but, in my opinion, the gorget was made by an unidentified Colonial silversmith.
It doesn't seem cost-effective to import from England an object of simple manufacture which can easily be done by a local silversmith
Giorgio Busetto

Geldolph Everts writes:
... I again need to call on the expertise of the association's members.
I inherited an antique purse with silver handle and clip mechanism.
I have no idea about the origin of the purse and although I have passed quite some time looking through your pages, I have not managed to identify the stamps.
Thanks and best regards.
Geldolph Everts

I believe the metal isn't silver. Could be alpacca, pewter or another silvered metal.
Giorgio Busetto

Luigi Masciullo writes:
... I'd wish to identify the mark of this sugar bowl, presumably Italian, 19th century
Any suggestion will be welcome
Luigi Masciullo

Shelly Cox writes:
... I was wondering if you would be able to help me with the origins of this teapot.
I am hitting some blanks as I haven't seen any with the letter B at the end.
Are you able to assist?
I would be really grateful if you could point me in the right direction.
Shelly Cox

The maker is John Sherwood & Son, see my website at
Symbols and letter next the shield with initials are added to imitate the series of marks of sterling silver (see my website at
In some cases the B is used as a Quality symbol (third quality), see my website at
Giorgio Busetto

Replies to questions

Allen Carlson receives this answer about his Jensen Sterling pin
(see August 2016 Newsletter)

Ole Lachmann
I asked the most knowledgeable Danish Georg Jensen expert about the strange mix of old and modern Georg Jensen marks shown by Allen Carlson on a brooch in your last newsletter.
In cooperation with the GJ company, he has just arranged a huge Georg Jensen exhibition at Sophienholm Museum, celebrating GJ's 150 years birthday. .
He said that such mix of marks in not unusual on small pieces. Having all the company's marks at hand they would apparently sometimes just grab the nearest GJ mark. .
The piece has all the information needed if designed by GJ himself. According to the specialist is probably made in the 1920s.
Ole Lachmann


In this column we presents a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page
Broadhead & Atkin advertisement

This month ASCAS presents an ancient advertisement of



The firm was active in North St. Works. A partnership of Roger Broadhead and Henry Atkin at Love St, Sheffield (1834-1853). In 1853 the partnership was dissolved and they formed respectively R. Broadhead & Co and Atkin Brothers.


In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary"
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authentic Indian Peace Medal authentic Indian Peace Medal


A common practice, since early times of British settlement, was to gift Indians of America with silver object as token of peace.
In the 1730s is documented the manufacture of silver breast plates by Albany silversmith Koenraet Ten Eyck while a silver gorget made in 1755 by his son Barent Ten Eyck was found in an Indian grave at Franklin, North Carolina.
Various gorgets were made by Joseph Richardson of Philadelphia. Richardson made a variety of silver objects as earrings, crosses, hair plates, medals for a Quaker organization named "The Friendly Association of Regaining and Preserving Peace with the Indians by Pacific Measures"...... MORE...


In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page


From centuries British silver is protected by the stamping of symbols and letters identifying the maker, the Assay Office and the date in which the quality of the silver piece was verified. Thanks to the "date letter" any piece of British sterling silver can be exactly dated.
Old Sheffield Plate and Electroplated silver are not subject to this practice and the regulation issued by the authorities had the main objective of preventing possible frauds by unscrupulous sellers of plated ware. The best-known initiative is the prohibition (effective from c. 1896: Elkington was forced to change its mark in 1898) of stamping plated wares with the "crown", to avoid misunderstanding with the symbol identifying the Sheffield Assay Office.
The absence of an official dating system makes it difficult to date silver plated wares. An approximate date can be determined by examining:
- the style of the object
- the presence or absence of the crown (before or after c. 1896)
- the date of registration of the pattern at the Patent Office
- the presence of a dated dedication
- the date of the event (example: King/Queen Coronation or Jubilee commemorative spoons)
- "Ltd" or "Ld" on the mark denotes a date after 1861 (but in most cases not before 1890)
- a registered number (Rd followed by a number) denotes a date after 1883
- "England" denotes a date after 1891 (mandatory for export in the USA - McKinley Tariff Act of 1890-)
- "Made in England" denotes a 20th century date (mandatory after 1921 for export in the USA)....


In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page




family crest: STEWART

The crest of a Scottish family

A pelican feeding her young, in a nest

The Latin motto is 'Virescit Vulnere Virtus' (from wound flourishes virtue)

The crest was found in a sterling silver menu holder, hallmarked London 1905, maker James Aitchinson

menu holder with family crest: STEWART Hallmark London 1905, James Aitchinson on a menu holder with Stewart crest

Closing our September 2016 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Trevor Cofer, Shelly Cox, Geldolph Everts, Robin Gibson, Ole Lachmann, Luigi Masciullo and Maurice Meslans for their precious contributions.

Giorgio Busetto


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