ASCAS Association of Small Collectors of Antique Silvernewsletter # 111 August 2013 SITE MAP
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Andrea Menarini presents:

The pleasure of the investigation English version
Il piacere dell'indagine versione italiana

I too am a fan of flea markets, antique shops or flea markets, and on Sunday morning, as an employee going to work, I leave for my hunt.
ASCAS members Katy Galewski and Lazar Freidgeim have well illustrated the matter in their articles and the excitement caused by the discovery of a rare piece buried in a basket of junk.
It's an emotion that goes far beyond the gratification of having done a bargain in economic terms. In her article Katy Galewski confirms this feeling with the donation made after the purchase of two Tiffany dishes bought for ninety cents in the Salvation Army store (see: Silver on My Mind).
It is the ancestral pride of the fisherman, of the hunter or of the searcher for mushrooms who comes home with a nice booty, as Lazar Freidgeim writes in his article (see: Garage Sale Saga)....

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Welcome to new ASCAS members:

Dianne Arthur - Australia
Charles Finder - USA
Thomas Niklasson - Sweden
Alejandro Pinzon - USA

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Bill Poynton writes:
... Can I ask members to help me please? A couple of month ago I acquired 18th. century 2-colour gold Etui, with all the tools intact.
At the time I had not researched the marks but I was aware of the potential age. I've now narrowed it down to 1788, made in Bohemian Holy Roman Empire, now Czechoslovakia.
The piece carries: a town mark with year, a maker's mark and a standard mark.
There's nothing definite in Rosenberg.
If any members can point me to a reference book covering this period I'd be very grateful.
Bill Poynton

Robin Holmes writes:
... I need your help to identify these spoons a bought recently.
Thanks for any suggestion you can supply
Robin Holmes
I bought this as an "apostle spoon" and it was supposed to be very old
These spoons seem old, and I suppose could be from the German area (in mid 1800's there were settlers in this part of South Africa from what is today Germany)
This mark is (S4Z), with what looks like a O above the 4
Spoons similar to these are usually tourist junk, but these are hard and clean like silver
Without any mark I would reckon that these to be from Central Europe, but the marks are unknown to me

Massimo Simonato writes:
... I need information about this pair of candlestick with the mark of Buccellati. I presume they have Italian hallmark of mid 20th century.
Thanks for your help.
Massimo Simonato
In this case Buccellati is the retailer. The maker is Ilario Pradella (see my website at ).
The hallmark dates to 1950 - 1970 circa.
Giorgio Busetto

Giotto Bargigia writes:
... I need your help to identify the origin of this piece and its origin. I was told it was used to eat meat chicken. The piece is marked HT (possibly) into a lozenge.
Thanks in advance for any information you can supply.
Giotto Bargigia
Your piece is a "couvert gigot" (lamb chop holder) with French hallmarks. I'm unable to identify the maker and trust in the help of ASCAS members for a possible identification.
Giorgio Busetto

Replies to questions

Rmy Du Pasquier receives answers about the maker of his flatware
(see July 2013 Newsletter)
Leo van Retep writes
The fourth image shows a fork made in Amsterdam. Maker's mark FRP for Frederik Precht I, registered in Amsterdam during 1744-1786. City guild mark for Amsterdam, date letter B for 1761 or 1786 but I lean towards 1761. Lion rampant facing left in a crowned shield; standard mark province Holland denoting minimum .934 fineness.
Leo van Retep


In this column we presents a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only
models of Soup Tureen Patterns made by Matthew Boulton's Soho Manufactory
This month ASCAS presents an ancient advertisement of Connell, London


83 Cheapside, London
Modern Artist's Jewellery And Silverware

The business was founded by William Connell in the early 19th century. George Lawrence Connell (manager of the firm 1902-1917) was responsible for the introduction of "modern artistic silverware". The firm retailed works in Art Nouveau Style designed by Kate Harris and manufactured by William Hutton & Sons.


In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary"
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silver tyg


Tyg is a drinking vessel in use since the Middle Ages. According to Sir James Murray (first editor of "A New English Dictionary on Historical Principles", now known as The Oxford English Dictionary) the word "tyg" is derived from the Anglo - Saxon word tygel, denoting anything made of clay.

Originally the tyg was an earthenware receptacle having two, three or even four handles, set equidistant from each other.

The handles divide the rim into separate sections used by several drinkers and the multiple handles allow hot drinks to be passed around..... more




In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page


The firm dates its origin to 1720, but the first documented of the family's association with silver trade is in 1748 when John West (born 1734) apprenticed to Bartholomew Mosse, Master Silversmith of Dublin. He was followed by his brother Matthew (1747 - 1806) who apprentices in 1762.
After their apprenticeship both were active as silversmiths and Matthew became Master of the Company of Goldsmiths in 1783/4 and one of the most renowned silversmiths of Dublin.
Matthew West was active at Skinner's Row.....


In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page



Flood family crest

Flood, an Irish family
The crest is described as "a wolf's head, erased".
The Latin motto is Vis unita fortior (Power increased by union).
The crest was found on a silver matchbox holder made by Horton & Allday, hallmarked Birmingham 1895

Flood family crest

Flood family crest

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Closing our AUGUST 2013 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Giotto Bargigia, Robin Holmes, Andrea Menarini, Bill Poynton, Massimo Simonato, Leo van Retep for their precious contributions.

Giorgio Busetto
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