ASCAS Association of Small Collectors of Antique Silvernewsletter # 135 August 2015 SITE MAP

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Plains buckskin dress decorated with brass thimbles ca. 1850

Magdalena and William Isbister present:

Native Americans, Hester Bateman and thimbles English version

... The Bateman silversmithing dynasty is arguably the most famous British dynasty of silversmiths ever to have been recorded. Hester Bateman was born Hester Neden or Needham in 1704 in Clerkenwell. Little is known about her childhood except that she was baptised in October 1708 and was not able to read or write. In about 1725 she married a gold chain and wire maker, John Bateman, who it seems never completed an apprenticeship and was thus not allowed to use his own mark. Hester had six children, John, Letitia, Ann, Peter, William and Jonathan before her husband died from Tuberculosis in 1760. They lived at 107 Bunhill Road in the Parish of St Luke in North London and subsequently bought adjoining properties for two of their children. Both Peter and Jonathan were apprentice silversmiths when John Bateman Sr. died. Despite this John senior is reputed to have left, in his will, unto his loving wife all his "household goods and implements" and this has been interpreted as indicating that Hester was already an accomplished silversmith although this has recently been challenged ....
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New members

Welcome to new ASCAS members:

Alberto Fabbro - Italy
Michael Hetherington - Australia
Tony O'Brien - Ireland
Noel Wells - USA

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Tomas Jurco writes:
... I need information about this tobacco pipe. Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.
Tomas Jurco

The makers are Joseph Crabb Kershaw-Frederick Francis Kershaw-Sydney Herbert Jones, possibly trading as Coulshaw, Jones & Kershaw, 72 Newman Street, London (wholesale tobacconists and sundries manufacturers).
A similar mark was entered in Chester in 1899.

Giorgio Busetto

Replies to questions

Janjaap Luijt receives this answer about his silver thimble
(see July 2015 Newsletter)

William H. Isbister writes:
In answer to Janjaap Luijt this might help?
William H. Isbister

David Rubin receives this answer about his silver beaker
(see December 2009 Newsletter)

Derek Rogers writes:
The alphabet is Sanskrit based. The beaker is certainly Asian (Burma is a strong possibility) and is marked for 900 standard.
I would be surprised if it was earlier than the 1930's.
Hope this helps.
Derek Rogers


In this column we presents a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page

Harrison Fisher & Co factory, Sheffield

This month ASCAS presents an ancient image of the factory of:


Active at 70 Trafalgar St. (1897-1899) and Surrey Lane, Wellington St and 9 Eyre Lane (1900-1925), Sheffield. Became Harrison Fisher & Co in 1900.
The firm ceased the manufacture of electroplated wares in 1925 but continued the trade. The firm used the trade mark PELHAM PLATE

This image is part of the FACTORIES, PLANTS, SALESROOMS, SHOPS AND WORKSHOPS: OLD IMAGES section of website


In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary"
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silver 'novelty'  propelling pencil


A mechanical or propelling pencil is a pencil with a replaceable graphite lead not bonded to the outer casing that can be mechanically extended as its point is worn away.

The first patent for a "metal pencil with an internal mechanism for propelling the graphite 'lead' shaft forward during use" was obtained by Sampson Mordan in 1822 (his co-inventor was John Isaac Hawkins).

In 1823 Mordan bought out the rights of Hawkins, entering his mark as "smallworker" in London Assay Office on 9 June 1823 as most of his production was made in precious metal.....



In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
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The founder of the firm was Charles Fox, 'plate worker' active at 139 Old Street, Goswell Street. He was not apprenticed through the Goldsmiths' Company nor he was a freeman of the Company. Charles Fox registered a mark in 1801 in partnership with James Turner (at 3 Old Street) and a unique mark alone on 5 September 1804.
In 1822 he was succeeded by his son, Charles Fox II, who entered various marks in 1822, 1823 (4 marks) and 1838. Also Charles Fox II was not apprentices nor was a Freeman of the Goldsmiths' Company.
His works shows consistently high quality and the rapid entry of marks suggests a fairly large establishment with varying marks used for different categories of work.
Fox can be considered the last individualist plateworker before the debacle of Victorian mass production.....


In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.
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family crest: FRENCH  

A crest used by Robert French, Esq, of Monavi Castle, co. Galway.
The crest is described as "A dolphin naiant".
The motto is "Malo mori quam foedari" (Death rather than disgrace)
The crest was found on a Chinese silver coffee pot made by Hung Chong & Co, active at Club Street, Canton and 11b Nankin Road, Shanghai, circa 1860-1930 (source: Chinese Export Silver 1785-1940, by Adrien von Ferscht). Chinese silver coffee pot: Hung Chong & Co
mark on Chinese silver coffee pot: Hung Chong & Co

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Closing our AUGUST 2015 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Magdalena and William Isbister, Tomas Jurco and David Rubin for their precious contributions.

Giorgio Busetto


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