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Kitchen Pepper of 1731 by James Stone
David McKinley presents:

Kitchen Peppers, Bun Peppers and Muffineers:  English version
.....The English sugar caster was invented in the reign of Charles II and by the end of the 17th century it had been joined by pairs of smaller versions, made to match, whose purpose, it is believed, was to dispense pepper and cayenne. However by the early 18th century quite different vessels for dispensing pepper had come into use and, as they did not take the place of the caster but were used in parallel with it, there is something of a mystery surrounding them.
These new vessels originally took two forms, the kitchen pepper and the bun pepper but by the end of the 18th century these had been joined by a third; the muffineer (also spelt muffinier). Although these vessels are casters of a sort, they do not follow the evolutionary patterns of 18th century casters and their use, as distinct from casters, has not been definitively determined by modern historians.....
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arrowhead spoon
Wayne Bednersh presents:

An Arrowhead Spoon English version

Mounted in the finial of this spoon is a brown handmade obsidian arrowhead.
I do not know if this is an ancient piece or if it were made contemporaneously with the spoon.
The bowl is a hand engraved picture of the tower at the Hotel Rafael....
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Claudio Morelli writes:
... I research information about the marks of this Austrian cruet stand. What is the meaning of the dog's head and the double "A".
Thank you
Claudio Morelli
I found this information:
The maker is Victor Nuber, Vienna (active 1891-1905). About the other questions .....Smaller objects with lower silver content were marked with marks of a smaller design. For number 3 silver the head of a whippet was used... and ....For Vienna the letter A remained in use, now surrounded by an oblong rectangle....
I don't know the meaning of the double "A"
Giorgio Busetto

Ted Orliz writes:
... Enjoy looking at your site, but being a layman, I can never seem to find the hallmarks I need to find. I recently bought five large serving spoons with this mark. I would like to find out the silver content, (BP = Birmingham Plate?) and who made these and when. I would greatly appreciate any info you wish to share.
Thank You,
Ted Orliz
I'm sorry but I'm unable to identify the maker of your items.
This is the information I have:
- there is no silver content. Your spoons were made in "white metal" and not in sterling or solid silver,
- BP means, possibly, British Plate (or Britannia Plate);
- The maker was a manufacturer active in Glasgow and, possibly, in Sheffield (crown)
- Information about the meaning of figural and literal symbols are available in my web site at
- your spoons were made before 1895 c. (after this date the use of the crown was admitted only in sterling silver pieces).
Any further suggestion by ASCAS members will be welcome
Giorgio Busetto

C.Tarenzi writes:
... I need your help to identify the marks on a German flatware set I recently bought. Besides the "crescent and crown" there is a triangle with a "D" inside
It is a pattern, made by "Doublina": Doublina-Besteckfabrik, A. Wieder Nachf. Hugo Lehn, Stade, N-Elbe (Doublina Cutlery Factory, A. Wieder Successor Hugo Lehn, from Stade, North Elbe, Germany).
The pattern is a typical German pattern; in the style of the 1930s to the 1950s. Doublina was one of the little German cutlery factories, which survived after WWII, but in which year this pattern was invented, before or after WWII, until yet I haven't found any notice.
Oskar M. Zurell

Pierre Bertrand writes:
... I think that my forks (7 pieces) are all in silver 800, but I still have doubts. Would it be possible to have confirmation that they are silver, and their date info. etc.
This is the description of their marks:
- an "H" under a "crescent" inside a rectangle;
- an "A" with "2" on the top right of a rectangle;
- a "B" over a larger "B" in script and an "A" over "800"
- a "D" under " ~ " inside a rectangle and an "A" with "2" on the top right of a rectangle;
- a "B" inside a star inside a rectangle and an "A" with "2" on the top right of a rectangle;
Any help will be highly appreciated
Pierre Bertrand

Robin Holmes writes:
... here are two pics of a mystery object.....well mystery for me anyway.
At first glance you would say that this is a gravy/sauce boat or something similar, but the opening of the mouth is about 1.5mm by about 3.5mm, and its length is 80mm and height including the handle is 50mm, so the dimensions are very small.
The item is hallmarked Sheffield 1920.
What is interesting is that the front end is almost beak-like.
My feeling is that there are two was either used to drip water onto the sugar cube as in the absinth ritual, or it was a very fancy medicine administering apparatus (though I see no teeth marks), and I say this latter idea because 1920 was just after the 1918 flu epidemic, and medicating away the lingering paranoia might have still been in vogue.
I was wondering if anyone else might have seen such an item.
Robin Holmes
Any suggestion will be welcome
Giorgio Busetto

Piero Eduardo writes:
...this is a Calabash pipe with silver complements marked "WG" or "WC" inside two conjoined circles and 1916 (possibly) London hallmarks.
I wonder if it is possible to identify the maker.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Piero Eduardo
The silversmith is Walter Gardener GROVES, gold & Silver worker. This mark was entered in London Assay Office on May 7, 1909.
Giorgio Busetto

Replies to questions

Judith Brown receives this answer about her "Knight on Horseback 
(see January 2011 Newsletter)
Pietro Fantazzini writes:
... The maker is Fratelli Magrino (Magrino Brothers), (FI 871). They were also the owners of the brand "Maria Cristina Sterling", which concentrated in 1996 in the " Fabbrica La Torre" together with the mark Magrino. They used also the marks FI 1508 and FI 1388.
The firm was specialized in galvanoplastic manufacturing. They produced several series of decorative items using this proceeding and other pieces of cast metal.
The most successful series were certainly those of the "knights" and those of the "sailboats", that were small craftsmanship masterpieces.
The marks illustrated are (from left) "MAGRINO" (firm's trademark), "R" (signifying "Riempito" - filled-: in this case an inappropriate definition as, usually, galvanic pieces were not filled with synthetic material), the number "180" (meaning the guaranteed minimum silver weight), "925" in the oval (silver fineness 925/1000 - sterling-) and "star 871" lacking of FI (the mark is badly punched).
This piece was presumably manufactured in late 70s, early 80s.
Pietro Fantazzini

Cor Oostveen receives these answers about his centerpiece  
(see January 2011 Newsletter)
Dorothea Burstyn writes:
... About Cor Ostveen's question: this bowl is not "Russian rococo" but was made by a famous Viennese silver firm J.C.Klinkosch. The double eagle shows that they were purveyor to the court.
More info on this firm Waltraud Neuwirth: Wiener Gold-und Silberschmiede und ihre Punzen 1867-1922, Vienna 1976 and a monograph about this firm Diether Halama: Die Gold-, Silber- und Metallwarenfabrik J. C. Klinkosch (1797-1972).
Best, Dorothea
Oskar M. Zurell writes:
This "JCK" mark (type II-1) could maybe an inofficial maker's marks for Export items, of Gold-, Silber- und Metallwarenfabrik J.C. Klinkosch, vormals Mayerhofer & Klinkosch« from Vienna, Austria
But it could be also a fake mark - because for the period of the early "JCK" (1869-1888) is only officially registered another type (II-4) of maker's mark.
It was founded in 1797 as Sheffield-Plated factory by the in Stuhlweissenburg, Hungary 1772 born Stephan Mayerhofer. His products of quality were appreciated by the members of the 1815 Vienna Congress and by the Court of Austria-Hungary too. There fore in 1816 was granted to Stephan Mayerhofer the Insignia, being Austro-Hungary Court Supplier (hence the Double-headed Eagle-mark).
In 1830, the 1797 born descendant of a brass founder dynasty from Gdansk and Prague, Carl Klinkosch started his career in Mayerhofer's factory (then there were busy about 200 workmen); became partner in 1836.
The next Generation, Stephan Mayerhofer jun. (b. 1819, d. 1889) and ("JCK") Joseph Carl Klinkosch (b. 1822, master 1843, d. 1888) took over in the middle of the 19th century - in 1869 "JCK" became owner of the whole.
In 1867 Austria-Hungary started a totally new Assay and Maker's marks system.
So, if the item is really made by "JCK", then there must be some more Austro-Hungary marks of that latter time period.
In 1878 "JCK" was knighted; the "knights' helmet" mark was in Vienna Assay Office registered ten years later, on 11 September 1888, at 10:15 am, number 5633.
The script "V" mark is a Dutch import mark, without warranty of finenesses, from 1814 on until 30 August 1953.
Sources: Halama, Diether: Die Gold-, Silber- und Metallwaren-Fabrik J.C. Klinkosch in Wien (1797-1972). Vienna 1997.ISBN 3-9500741-0-4
Neuwirth, Waltraud: Lexikon Wiener Gold- und Silberschmiede und ihre Punzen - 1867-1922. Two volumes. Vienna 1976. ISBN 3-900282-00-5
Vol. I, p. 295-301 History; Vol. II, p. 333, numb. 1092 (J.C.K. mark, type II-4).
Kind regards,
Oskar M. Zurell
Karin Sixl-Daniell writes:
... The maker was J C Klinkosch of Vienna. The double headed eagle shows that this highly respected firm was purveyor to the court in Vienna. The piece is not an old rococo piece but was made probably in the last third of the 19th century. The Klinkosch mark was used from 1869 onwards when the well-known company Mayerhofer&Klinkosch became "Gold-, Silber- und Metallwaren-Fabrik Josef Carl Klinkosch" (Stephan Mayerhofer sold his shares) and the company obtained a royal/imperial warrant (the double headed eagle also seen on this piece).

Paul Skippen receives this answer about his asparagus tongs  
(see January 2011 Newsletter)
Oskar M. Zurell writes:
...These Asparagus tongs have "J K C" markings, in a contour as like a slightly deformed Rugby ball.
J. KURZ & Co. was founded in 1907 by the sisters Julie Kurz (b. 1874) and Marie Kurz (b. 1877).
The address of J. Kurz & Co. was Türkische Gärten 7, Hanau am Main.
This is only one of the marks of J. KURZ & Co. from Hanau, Germany.
The here shown maker's mark is that of their last phase (from maybe end of WWII until about 1955).
In the documentation source (*) nearly similar tongs are presented as Cake tongs.
(*) Source: (pages 70-73; p. 70 = marks, p. 71 = nearly similar tongs).
Gehrlein, Johanna: Rosen-Bestecke, ISBN 978-3-9813273-0-4 www.
Oskar M. Zurell

Sharon Blasgen receives this answer about her salvers  
(see January 2011 Newsletter)
Malcolm Rice writes:
... In reply to the query of Sharon Blasgen about the makers mark Wb on her salvers of 1755 I suggest she looks at it the other way up where it might read JM. Please see Grimwade page 116 mark number 1534 for James Morison. Quite often the makers mark is the opposite way up to the Assay marks.
Kind regards
Malcolm Rice
Karin Sixl-Daniell writes:
...The London salver seems to indeed bear the mark of James Morison whose mark was entered on 14 May 1740 (for the mark see Grimwade p. 116 as well as Jackson p. 197. For a short biography see Grimwade on page 600).
Maria Entrup-Henemann writes:
...I think, the makers mark is not "Wb", but (upside down) "J.M", suitable to James Morison (Grimwade Nr. 1534), mark entered in 1740.
Graham Stapleton writes:
...These are a very agreeable pair of salvers for anybody to own. Might I suggest that the sponsor’s mark is not Wb, but JM upside down. To me it looks much like the mark of James Morison, recorded as a salver-maker; and given the date, potentially they were some of the last of his output.
I have already learnt that until relatively modern times assay clerks could be quite inconsistent (occasionally even slapdash to our perception) in where marks were stamped.
Even in something so regulated as hallmarking, human foibles will sometimes show through, this is part of the joy of collecting.
Graham Stapleton


In this column we present a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only
an 1881 advertisement of Walter Thornhill, London
This month we present an ancient advertisement of


The business was founded by Charles Payton (c. 1820) and carried on (in the 1890s) by Henry Payton, George John Payton and Joseph F. Pepper.
The firm was active at 3, 4 and 5 Vyse Street, Birmingham, with London Warehouse at 36 Myddelton Square, Clerkenwell.
In 1898 the firm was acquired by Payton, Pepper & Sons Ltd.


In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary" 
courtesy of home page
silver warmer of circular shape, standing on four paw feet, gadrooned embossed body, pierced lid with floral motif, double scroll handle


When central heating was not available, besides stove and fireplace, another heating item was used in ancient times: the warmer (or brazier).
It was a container in metal, terracotta or ceramic filled with embers and warm ash used as personal heating support and bed warming..... more


In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page
Italian Silversmiths - The 20th Century Maker's Marks Directory




This month, ASCAS does not present a single company or a silversmiths' dynasty.
The column of this month is dedicated to a new initiative having the objective to create a wide historical list of ITALIAN SILVERSMITHS OF THE 20th CENTURY.
This project has just started and will be completed as soon as possible.
Thanks to the contributions of Andrea Menarini and Pietro Fantazzini, the site starts the publication of the lists, sorted by province, of most of the silversmiths who registered their mark in Italy in the period 1935-1970.
This is a demanding task, but in this way, when our work will be completed, historical lists of Italian Silversmiths will be available, never published before in so complete form.
Any further information and addition to these lists from owners of ancient Annuari Orafi (Jewelry Directory) will be highly appreciated.


In this column we present books, new or ancient, dealing with silver in all its aspects (history, marks, oddities...). This isn't a "book review" but only a fair presentation of some useful "tools" that anyone may have in the shelf of his bookcase.
ASCAS members are invited to contribute to this column
(click to enlarge images)
The "book on my shelf" of this month presents:
book: Punzoni degli Argentieri Milanesi dell'800
V. Donaver - R. Dabbene
Edizioni San Gottardo
(MARKS OF MILANO'S SILVERSMITHS OF THE 1800s: the text is in Italian)


In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.


A silver plate dish with the crest of M'Nab family

A Scottish family
A dexter hand with a sword and the motto Timor omnes abesto (Let fear be far from all)

The crest was found in a silver plate dish made by Frederick Ellis Timm & Co - Sheffield (active c. 1860-1918)

A silver plate dish with the crest of M'Nab family

A silver plate dish with the crest of M'Nab family: trade mark of Frederick Ellis Timm & Co

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Closing our February 2011 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Wayne Bednersh, Pierre Bertrand, Dorothea Burstyn, Jayne Dye, Piero Eduardo, Maria Entrup-Henemann, Pietro Fantazzini, Robin Holmes, David McKinley, Claudio Morelli, Ted Orliz, Malcolm Rice, Karin Sixl-Daniell, Graham Stapleton, C.Tarenzi, Oskar M. Zurell for their invaluable contributions.

Giorgio Busetto
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