ASCAS Association of Small Collectors of Antique Silvernewsletter # 110 July 2013 SITE MAP
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RR mark (unpelleted, bigger dimension): Year 1770
Giovanni Ciceri presents:

The case of Richard Rugg and Robert Rew - A debate on the attribution of a maker mark English version

The worker's or maker's mark was first instituted in England by the statute of 1363 which ordered that every Master Goldsmith should have a mark of his own, known to those appointed by the King to survey their work. In chronological order the maker's mark was the second marks becoming compulsory, after the introduction of the crowned leopard head in force since 1300, that was the guarantee given by the Worshipful Company of Goldsmiths that the silver was at list of sterling standard (925 parts of silver per 1000 parts of alloy)......
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Logan Need writes:
... Do you know anything about these marks? I was curious when I found them
Logan Need
They are silverplate trademarks used by Philip Ashberry & Sons (see my website at ).
Giorgio Busetto

Guy Brooke - Sumner writes:
... I was wondering if you could tell me a little about the hallmark of the attached picture... It is a serviette ring with claims that it is London hallmark Sterling silver.
Many thanks
Guy Brooke - Sumner
Your mark is rubbed and difficult to read. It could be Robert Pringle & Sons, year 1947 (see my website at ).
Giorgio Busetto

Eddie Robinson writes:
... I wonder if you could advise me with the attached maker mark. [Sheffield] [F & G] [EP] [3]
I have searched high and low with nothing resembling F & G.
Kind regards
Eddie Robinson

Rémy Du Pasquier writes:
... I have inherited an assortment of antique silver sterling forks and spoons, which came from my great- great grandmother. I believe they might be from the early 20th century or before. It is also possible that they were made in Switzerland.
I have asked several antique dealers in Switzerland but they were not able to tell me much about them. I have been on your site, which is incredibly rich in information, but I must say, it is difficult for me to sort through it in order to find out more about the silverware.
I am including a couple pictures of the silverware and hallmarks and I was wondering if you could send me on the right path to find out about their provenance.
I am very grateful of any help you could give me.
Rémy Du Pasquier

Linda Rowe writes:
... I am hoping you can help me. I was wondering if my tray is silver or silver plated.
It is a silver tray made by Ellis-Barker Silver Co. (Barker Brothers).
I have attached a couple of pictures and all the information I have found out about the tray so far.
- The pineapple hallmark was issued from 1906 to 1912 by Barker Brothers
- The size of the tray without the handles is 24” by 17.5”
- The weight of the tray is roughly 8.5 pounds
- The engraving would be just gorgeous if it was to be polished
Here are some pictures I took
Linda Rowe
Your tray is silverplate and not sterling silver. See further information and images in my website at )
Giorgio Busetto

Guillaume de Saint Just writes:
...I'm trying to identify the maker of this cup.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Guillaume de Saint Just
Your cup is silverplate (not sterling silver). The maker is Barker Brothers, Birmingham (see my website at )
Giorgio Busetto

Replies to questions

Riccardo Bonardi receives answers about the maker of his snuff box
(see June 2013 Newsletter)

Ludo D’Haese, Christophe Ginter, Jean-Gabriel Lamorte and Robert Massart
identify the mark belonging to the manufacturing silversmith Louis Alexandre Bruneau.
8 rue du Vertbois, Paris (1)
1 rue Montmorency, Paris (2)
38 rue de Montmorency, Paris (3)
N° de garantie : 2434 (1); 3353 (2); 4266 (3)
N° de préfecture : 2570 (1); 3494 (2); 4435 (3)
Symbol : a pellet over a nib (un bec de plume, un point au-dessus)
Mark entered : 9 June 1823 (1); 2 July 1834 (2), 8 April 1843 (3)

Marco Iannantuono receives this answer about his French marks
(see May 2013 Newsletter)
Werner Lack writes:
I believe the shown marks are pseudo marks; the last mark is the Latvian Import mark from Riga.
Riga was the gateway for European silver to the East, mainly Russia.
Werner Lack

Douglas B. Shand adds the following information about his fork
(see May 2013 Newsletter)
Through further research and a contact in France it has been determined that the family which this armorial bearing belonged to was that of Porcheron de Saint James.
Still no luck with the hallmarks or makers marks but I’m still working on it and if unsuccessful hopefully someone else will be able to assist me.
Douglas B. Shand

Claude Guilloteau receives this answer about his flatware set
(see May 2013 Newsletter)
Douglas Shand writes:
I’m not sure but I may have found the family coat of arms for Claude Guilloteau submission that appeared in the May newsletter. It would seem that it may be: "Perot"
See at
Douglas Shand


In this column we presents a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only
models of Soup Tureen Patterns made by Matthew Boulton's Soho Manufactory
This month ASCAS presents a page from The Soho Pattern Books of Matthew Boulton's Soho Manufactory


from Matthew Boulton's Soho Manufactory Pattern Books

Matthew Boulton employed numerous designers, including Robert Adam, John Flaxman and James Wyatt, but he also used a Soho workman, named Hooker, to act as draughtsman, and he probably made the sketches when required.
The sheets were submitted to customers for approval or the help them to describe an article they wished to commission.
This page illustrates models of Soup Tureen Patterns made by The Soho Manufactory


In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary"
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whisky noggin with silver collar and lid


This is a drinking vessel of glass crystal with curved handle and silver collar with thumb rest for opening the lid.

It has conical shape and, in most cases, a cut glass star on the base.

Often it is accompanied by a silver tot label and chain..... more




In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website home page


The business Levi and Salaman was founded in Birmingham in 1870 by Phineas Harris Levi in partnership with Joseph Wolff Salaman.
The firm was active at Northampton Street until c. 1872 when the business was transferred to larger premises at Hockley Street continuing the manufacture of silver jewellery.
In 1878 the firm bought Potosi Silver, a small manufacturer of silverplate spoons and forks. The production had great success and in 1885 the activity was transferred to new buildings in Newhall Street (Potosi Works).
P.H. Levi died in 1910 and the firm was converted into a limited liability company as Levi & Salaman Ltd. The first directors were Joseph Wolff Salaman, Clive Joseph Levi (son of P.H. Levi) and Lewis Henry Salaman. Potosi Silver Co was their subsidiary firm....


In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.


Bart. Baird crest
Baird Bart. of Yardleybury, Herts; Fernton, Perthshire; and Newbyth, East Lothian
The crest is described as "A boar's head, erased".
The Latin motto is Vi et Virtute (By strenght and valour).
The crest was found on a silver marrow spoon made by James McKay, hallmarked Edinburgh 1843,
(courtesy Lindy Donato)

marrow spoon made by James McKay, hallmarked Edinburgh 1843, with Bart. Baird crest

marrow spoon made by James McKay, hallmarked Edinburgh 1843, with Bart. Baird crest

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Closing our JULY 2013 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Guy Brooke, Giovanni Ciceri, Guillaume de Saint Just, Ludo D’Haese, Rémy Du Pasquier, Christophe Ginter, Werner Lack, Jean-Gabriel Lamorte, Robert Massart, Logan Need, Eddie Robinson, Linda Rowe and Douglas B. Shand for their precious contributions.

Giorgio Busetto
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