Willand Ringborg presents:
THE VIOLIN HANDLE - development of rococo style in
Swedish silver soup spoons
In Sweden, the French influence in art and craftsmanship
came to its full expression by the crowning of King
Gustaf III year 1772. He was a strong admirer of
continental art and culture, particularly French, built
the Royal Opera, started academies of literature and art
(and sciences). And the French language became literally
"Lingua Franca" in the Swedish court. Court architects,
ebonists, decorators, fountain makers and fire-works
designers were called for service in Stockholm from
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Gregory La Vardera writes:
...this is the story of the pieces as I know:
These are four silver pieces which appear to be service pieces
for tea or coffee. The story behind them is my uncle returned
from Europe with these after his service in World War II. He was
a collector of sorts, and while he was there he traded to
collect various artifacts. I somehow ended up with these after
my parents moved and cleared out their house.
The pieces are marked with an anchor, and the initials DDSG and
another mark that reads HERRMANN. The story in the family about
these was that they belonged to a German Naval officer during
WW2. I'm not entirely sure that this is true - I've found that
the DDSG was the Danube Steam Shipping Company which was a
shipping outfit in Austria. The company may have been in the
service of the Germans during the war and this may have hatched
the story, or the pieces may have originated with the shipping
company and went with one of their captains when he transferred
to serve on a German naval vessel.
- The first piece is a coffee or tea pot marked 50cl on the
bottom. It is approx 6" tall and 4" at the base. The photos of
this piece are marked 50cl.
- The second piece is a tea pot marked 30cl on the bottom. It
includes a small strainer that fits inside under the lid. It is
approx 5" tall and 3" at the base. The photos of this piece are
- The third piece is a small lidded pitcher. It is approx 4"
tall and 2" at the base. The photos of this piece are marked
creamer (although I am not sure of its intended function).
- The fourth piece is an open pitcher. It is approx 3" tall and
2" at the base.
I have included one photo of the group, and individual photos of
each piece, the bottom of each piece, and a close up of the
markings on each piece. I found information about the DDSG at
this web site:
If anybody has more knowledge of this than I, or can help me
fill in the story of these pieces I would welcome any
Greg La Vardera
Pamela Coates writes about the article "Travelling for Faith"
on February Newsletter:
... Kudos yet another exciting newsletter. Thank you for your
continued good works.
One question - the "spoon" that is shown in the Holy Communion
set - is that used for the holy wafers? Not being a Catholic, I'm
not familiar with this particular piece
Giovanni Ciceri (author of the article) supplies the
information obtained by the link
"It is important for us to know that the early Christians used
to receive Holy Communion in a completely different manner than
the present practice in the East. They received from the
celebrant a portion of the consecrated Bread into their hands,
and they communed directly from the chalice, exactly the way
priests do today. In fact, some of the more ancient liturgies,
such as the Alexandrian Liturgy of St. Mark and the Jerusalemite
Liturgy of St. Iakovos, still call for the lay people to commune
in this way. Because of the fear of accidents, the Church
adopted, in time, the use of tongs, with which the elements were
mingled together and placed carefully into the mouths of the
communicants through this instrument. By the ninth century, the
Church changed over to the Communion spoon for the same
practical reasons, and it is this practice that remains in place
Gustav Roos writes
... Dear Giorgio, I write about three Russian silver spoons of
which I tried to identify the makers using the information in
your website (editor's note: Gustav refers to
spoon 1 - St.Petersburg 1899-1908 (Postnikova-Loseva # 3881
spoon 2 - Moscow 1869
spoon 3 - Moscow 1864 - assayer Aleksandr Nikolaevich Mitin (Postnikova-Loseva
I hope you may confirm, correct and complete my observation.
Moreover, in your page dealing with "fakes" there's a mark very
similar to the mark of my spoon 3. I don't believe that my spoon
is a fake as it belongs to my family from three generations at
Thank you for your help
I agree with your observation. Your spoons look to be
authentic Imperial Russia silver.
Their marks present some incoherence. Anyway I'll try to help
you with few observations.
- spoon dated 1812: town mark appears to be Moscow, end of 19th
century (not coherent with date). Silversmith and assayer not
- spoon date 1864: town mark is rubbed, but appears to be Orgeev
and not St.Petersburg (an A.M assayer is present in St.
- spoon date 1869: town mark is Moscow, but, unusually,
silversmith mark and assayer mark are over-stamped (and not
I trust in the help of ASCAS members for a more qualified
examination of your marks.
Frédéric Madelenat writes:
... I'm trying to find information about my silverware. Can
someone identify these marks?
Thank you in advance
Replies to questions
receives these replies about the marks of his spoons
( see February Newsletter)
Ellen Fuerst writes:
... While I don't recognize the first two marks, I
can confirm that the Diana symbol in the five-lobed
cartouche was used between 1887 and 1922 in the former
Austro-Hungarian Empire. Because the cartouche is
five-lobed (and probably also contains the numerical "3"
in the left-hand lobe), the silver piece is 800 silver.
There also should be a letter somewhere in the lobes,
referring the city of manufacture. A stands for Vienna,
B for Linz, C for Prague, etc. through V for Zagreb.
Dorothea Burstyn writes:
...Re Vadim's question, the master mark (a helmet)
is used by the firm of Klinkosch, court jewellers and
silversmiths as shown also in the doubleheaded eagle
mark. By the way the double headed eagle mark was not
only used by purveyors to the court, but also by many
other firms who had bought a licence to produce silver.
For more info on this see W. Neuwirth: Viennese Silver
1781-1866 Makers-and Company marks, Vienna 2002, page
242-249 Double Eagle marks.
Karin Sixl-Daniell writes:
With best regards,
...The maker’s mark with the helmet is for the
purveyor to the Viennese Imperial court, J.C. Klinkosch.
The double-headed eagle is the mark that only a purveyor
to the court was allowed to use.
With best regards
Giampiero Ierbulla writes about his hand
( see March 2006 Newsletter)
... with the help of Anna Clerici, Finarte Auction House, I identified
the mark "hammer and S intertwined" presented in
March 2006 Newsletter of ASCAS.
It belongs to ditta Mario Soldati, Largo Treves
2, Milan. This firm was bought in 1938 by one of
its workers, Marco Dabbene. The firm is still
active and belongs to Dabbene family.
I may supply some useful links:
receives these replies about his Chinese
( see February Newsletter)
John Lawrence writes:
...A friend has supplied the
following information on this coin:
Depending on the size, it appears to be
a 4 momme 6 fun silver coin of Akita
City of Ugo Province in Northwest Honshu
(if it is about 65mm long). If it is
about 85mm long it is probably a 9 momme
2 fun from the same place.
"A PAGE per
In this column
we present a page obtained from makers'
brochures, books, auction catalogs,
advertising or whatever other printed
paper related to silver, which may be of
interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low
resolution" level and for private and
personal use only
ASCAS presents a certificate of
25 'shares' emitted at the
beginning of the 20th century by
G.B. IZAR - Milano - Fabbrica
Italiana di Posateria e Oggetti
di Metallo in Genere (IZAR Inc.
- Italian Factory of Silverware
"A WORD per
In this column
we presents an abstract from a page of
the "What is? Silver Dictionary"
The long narrow gulley of
the spoon, allowed one to remove
marrow from the bone. These
spoons were widely used during
the reign of Queen Anne, when
marrow was considered quite a
delicacy and meat was a luxury
only the rich could afford on a
The marrow spoon was made of
silver because that would fit in
best with the rest of the fancy
silver dishes and utensils on a
dining room table and, moreover,
a wood or a tin marrow spoon
would probably break while
digging inside the bone........
"A BOOK ON
In this column
we present books, new or ancient,
dealing with silver in all its aspects (history,
marks, oddities...). This isn't a "book
review" but only a fair presentation of
some useful "tools" that anyone may have
in the shelf of his bookcase.
ASCAS members are invited to contribute
to this column
(click to enlarge images)
The "book on the shelf" of this month
is presented by Karin Sixl-Daniell:
THE BOOK OF OLD SILVER - English -
American - Foreign
by Seymour B. Wyler
Crown Publishers, New York, Twentieth
Printing, June, 1966 (THE FIRST EDITION
was first published in 1937)
As you can see, on the cover it not only
says "More Than 20,000 Hallmarks", but
also is proud to be "Profusely
Closing our MARCH
2008 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope
you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice
will be of great help.
thanks to Dorothea Burstyn, Giovanni
Ciceri, Pamela Coates, Jayne Dye, Ellen
Fuerst, Giampiero Ierbulla, Gregory La
Vardera, John Lawrence, Robert Massart,
Franco Negrini, Francesca Rapposelli,
Willand Ringborg, Gustav Roos, Karin
Sixl-Daniell, JoAnne Wilkinson for their
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