ASCAS Association of Small Collectors of Antique Silver         newsletter # 30 October 2006
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Three new articles for ASCAS website

The plate commemorating the dedication ceremony

Jacquie Mallory and Giorgio Busetto present:

The Soo Line Historical Museum - Weyburn English version

After "The Fondazione Palazzo Coronini Cromberg of Gorizia - Italy" (article #15) and "The hall of Imperial Russian Silverware of the Musée Royal de l'Armée et d'Histoire Militaire of Bruxelles" (articles # 17 and 20), ASCAS presents a Museum located in Weyburn, a small city of southern Saskatchewan (Canada).
In the Soo Line Historical Museum of Weyburn is exhibited the Charles Wilson Silver Collection, that, with its 3000 silver pieces, is the largest one man collection of silver known to exist in Canada.

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two double lipped punch ladles Dorothea Burstyn presents:

"Let's drink and be merry" - a study about punch ladles English version

This study concerns itself with punch ladles and more specifically 18th and 19th century's examples. They are found still relatively often in today's market place and are so within reach of interested collectors. Still useful in the modern household, they are also enough varied in style and therefore qualify easily as collector's items.... click here

Russian Charka

Kari Helenius presents:

Charka exhibition in Helsinki English version

The word charka means vodka cup and it is the diminutive of the Russian word chara (glass or cup). The diminutive of a charka is in its turn called a charotska. A large charka is called a chara and a small one a charotska.
A Finnish collection of Russian charkas (silver vodka cups) is exhibited in the Sinebrychoff Art Museum of the Finnish National Gallery from September 28, 2006 to January 7, 2007.
The exhibition covers the whole Romanov era, i.e. from early 17th century till early 20th century. About 170 charkas are exhibited and arranged by the period of each ruling tsar from Michael to Nicholas II.

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New members

Welcome to new ASCAS members:  

Hank Burchard - USA
Donna Claiborne - USA
Paul Craft - Australia
French Dumas - USA
Leslie Espinosa - USA
Thomas Feilenreiter - Austria
Theresa Nolet - Canada
Catherine Reilles - France
Ariosto Rubino - Italy
Jossi Shoch - Hungary
Soo Line Historical Museum - Canada
Malcom Stander - South Africa
Renee Watkins - Canada  


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Gorham silver plate trulla Jayne Dye presents:

Georg Jensen? ... Art Deco?... NO... Ancient Rome! English version

This is the silver plate reproduction made in 1966 by Gorham Corporation of a 'trulla' (ladle or pitcher), a highly unusual piece of Roman silver from the republican period. The original, now owned by the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, has no parallels in other Roman art objects and utensils; nor has it any known antecedents in Greek vase shapes...
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Mail to ASCAS: e-mail

Tina Reuwsaat writes:
I found your site via Google. I am looking for info on a set of EPNS England silver spoons I have. They are engraved 1915-1940, have red celluloid or glass balls on the end of the handle and the bottoms of the bowls are bent up to create a ledge. I never saw this form before.
I am not so interested in the maker, but rather what this type (form) of spoon was used for, because the shape of the bowl is very unusual. I am also wondering about the significance of the engraved anniversary dates. The only historical event in that year of any significance was the sinking of the Lusitania, and I doubt they made commemorative spoons of it!
Thank you for your help! I look forward to the replies
Tina Reuwsaat
Southern Oregon Historical Society

Graham Griffiths writes:
I have 2 set of spoons marked with a logo + CCCP

The first set is a silver colour but I don't think it is silver or plate they are marked
logo/k MHU u2p95k The other looks a gilded colour and marked
logo/k 5p65k I hope you can help as I have spent hours trawling the net for info

Bert Hoebink writes:
a friend has a knife with some marks, presumably maker's marks, as below.
We can't determine them. Perhaps You can help me.
Thank You very much
Bert Hoebink

Eric Schneider writes:
I have a 24 piece set of, what I believe is Russian, assorted silver cutlery, which I would like to know provenance. The set consists of 6 tea spoons, 6 knives, 6 forks and 6 table spoons, of identical design, probably dating from around the turn of the last century (but I cannot be sure). There is an identical stamp in Cyrillic on all items.
I know for a fact that this set was brought to the UK from Poland some 25 years ago. I just don't know how old (or new) it really is, I just suspect the set is older than 25 years - difficult to tell from the design - because it came in a home-sewn wrap with individual compartments for each piece made from a cotton bed-sheet - really well made actually and quite effective as a protection, so the set must have been a family heirloom. I am ignorant of the maker.
Would a member of your association be able to identify the stamp of the maker with possibly a rough date when the pieces were made
Many thanks
Kind regards,
Eric Schneider

(click on each picture to see a larger view)
I believe that your pieces are not sterling or solid silver but metal or silverplate. Anyway their mark does not belong to Tsarist Russia.
Does any member recognize this mark?
Giorgio Busetto
ASCAS Secretary

Shailesh Sawant writes:
I need your help in finding out makers mark. I have just purchased a sterling silver cigarette case its hallmarked with Anchor, lion, and letter s that suggests it's 1917 Birmingham silver. If you open this case on left hand side along with these three marks there is makers mark - T.F.N.&S.
I don't know who they are. On right hand side again there is mark of lion and letter S. also on small lock there is hallmark of lion, which I haven't seen in other cases. This mark is very tiny but I am sure its lion.
On the front it says "S.M. TO J.M.D." this suggests to me as it's a gift from someone named S.M. to J.M.D.
I am just interested in makers mark or if anyone knows about these types of marks?
Thanks in advance.
Shailesh Sawant

Does any member have information about the maker of this cigarette case?
Giorgio Busetto
ASCAS Secretary

Maria Ines Braudo writes:
Dear Silver Association Members:
I'm a new member of your association and ready to learn from you.
I need information about the hallmarks in the pieces enclosed.
Thanks for your interest
Maria Ines Braudo

Alan Yates writes:
The Secretary
Dear Sir
I should very much appreciate a brief account of why Britain gave up its century's old system of silver hallmarks. Gone are the regional assay offices and lion passant, gone are the date letters, shields, and sovereigns head, and with them the history, romance, and charm; all of which contributed to the interest and indeed value of English sterling silver.
The lion passant, having been dumbed down with the tautologous 925, indicates the involvement of Brussels.
Such a pity.
I look forward to being enlightened, if not mollified.
Alan Yates

Dear Alan,
I'm unable to 'enlighten' you and, as Italian, I have a similar regret and 'nostalgia' for old English hallmarking system.
Maybe someone of British members of ASCAS will be able to enlighten us.
Giorgio Busetto
ASCAS Secretary

a small addition by Giorgio Busetto to his article "Italian silver hair-pin: the sperada", published in September Newsletter :

A follow up to my article about the hair pin (spadinn) used in the Brianza (an area on the Northern Italy region of Lombardy). Now I may illustrate another hair adornment used in Canazei in the Fassa Valley (Dolomiti, Trentino Province, Italy).
Fassa is one of the Italian valleys were survives and is still spoken the "Ladin" language. The origins of the language go back to the Roman Empire, when the legions marched into Rhaetia. The Latin of the conquerors was mixed with the language of the native Rhaetians. During more than four centuries of Roman rule, this Rhaetian language spread from the Swiss Alps to the Adriatic. When the Germanic tribes of the Bavarians and Alemans moved south in the 6th century, the area of the Rhaetian language was split up, leaving enclaves in which the language has survived against all obstacles right down to the present day, e.g. in the canton of Grisons (Switzerland), in the Dolomites (Val Gardena, Val Badia, Val di Fassa, Livinallongo, Cortina) and Friuli. Nowadays Rhaeto-Romanic is taught at school as an obligatory school subject, books and magazines are published in this language and there are also daily programmes on radio and TV.
These images were taken on September 3, 2006 at the "Festa da d'Ista" (Summer Feast) in Canazei.
Giorgio Busetto
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Replies to questions

Gail B. Randall receives this reply about Barth & Son, Ritz Carlton silverplate ( see September Newsletter)
Karin Sixl-Daniell writes:
Here is some information on L.Barth&Son: They seem to have retailed (wholesale only?) all kinds of cookware, including items made of copper, silverplated items and apparently also china.
The company is mentioned in and for copper and, inter alia, in and for china. Some items are available on ebay. For china, they also seem to have supplied the railroads as I found two mentionings for this area (one on ebay and one on It would thus not be surprising to see them having sold items to the Ritz Carlton. Other examples for silver plated items can be found at
I just found some more information on the background of the company and it is indeed a wholesaler and not a maker, hence it was not mentioned in Rainwater: If you go to, have a look at where it says “L. Barth & Son was a distributor. Barbara's Volume 2, page 610 lists L. Barth Co. of New York City, New York and says...
‘Leopold Barth founded this firm in 1868. Distributed GDA, Greenwood , Grindley, Maddock ( U.S. ), D.E. McNicol, Rosenthal. Scammell, Shenango, Syracuse & Warwick china. Supplied at least nine patterns to the railroads. Merged with Albert Pick in 1926 and operated as Albert Pick-L.Barth Co. until 1931 when L. Barth was eliminated from the name.’
I then checked Rainwater: Albert Pick & Co. ( Bridgeport , Connecticut ) is mentioned in Rainwater on page 184 as a manufacturer of silverplated flatware and holloware. On, some china can be found at and flatware under “Pick-Barth” at
In April, someone sold a catalogue of the company on ebay (
There it says:
“This 95-year-old volume is the 1911 catalogue for L. Barth & Son, which offered hotel, restaurant and saloon supplies. Under the motto "Everything at One Place ," the company offered china, glass, silverware, cutlery, woodenware, furniture, linens, ranges, utensils, sundries and other items. It said it could provide complete equipment for hotels, clubs, cafes, railroad dining cars, steamships, hotels and saloons. This big well-illustrated catalogue backs up the claim. There seems to be nothing that the company couldn't provide. The company called itself "the great mail order hotel, restaurant and saloon supply store." It boasted a "great factory at 644-646-648-650 W. 44th St. in New York City ," along with general offices and salesrooms at 30-32-34-36 Cooper Square in New York City . (That address now is claimed by the Village Voice newspaper.)
L. Barth & Son was a distributor of various wares and is remembered today for its china. Barbara Conroy, in "Restaurant China Volume 2," page 610, lists L. Barth Co. of New York , N.Y. , and says: "Leopold Barth founded this firm in 1868. Distributed GDA, Greenwood , Grindley, Maddock ( U.S. ), D.E. McNicol, Rosenthal, Scammell, Shenango, Syracuse and Warwick china. Supplied at least nine patterns to the railroads. Merged with Albert Pick in 1926 and operated as Albert Pick-L.Barth Co. until 1931 when L. Barth was eliminated from the name." In addition, much of the china supplied to the railroads was ordered via a small number of wholesaler companies. Two of the largest were L. Barth & Son of New York and Burley & Co. of Chicago , and their backmarks are often found along with the railroad’s name on the backmark.
Barth's catalogue showed the scope of its wares. The tableware department section included semi-vitreous ware, Greenwood china, Syracuse China , English vitrified china and G.D.A. French china manufactured by Porcelaines G.D.A. in Limoges , France .
Other china items were toilet sets; fireproof baking dishes; tea, coffee and chocolate pots; water coolers and ice tubs; vinegar jugs; mixing bowls, and butter jars.
Tableware included nickel-silver, silver plated, triple plus plate, as well as sugar bowls, soup tureens, coffee pots, creamers, salad casters, meat dish covers, casseroles with holders, corn servers, steak holders, chafing dishes, coffee percolators, trays and vegetable dishes.
There was plain and fancy pressed table tumblers, lead-blown tumblers, pressed and blown water goblets, water bottles, oyster cocktail serving pieces, ice cream dishes, celery trays, vinegar bottles, sale and pepper shakers, stemware, bar bottles, plain-cut and etched decanters and bitter bottles, beer mugs and steins, flasks and demijohns, Tom and Jerry sets, and more.
There were various corks, picnic beer pumps, beer faucets, wooden mallets, cork pullers, lemon and lime squeezers, bar spoons, lemon knives, muddlers, wine coolers and stands, water filters, papier mache trays, glass and bottle brushes, hot water urns, match holders and sausage cookers.
Kitchen equipment includes Barth ranges, French ranges, hotel and restaurant broilers, hammered copper kitchen utensils, seamless aluminum cooking utensils, seamless re-tinned steel hotel kitchen ware, enameled nickel steel ware, heavy steel and iron cooking utensils, fry baskets, cruller pots and drainers, ice cream molds, copper molds, pastry and vegetable cutters, graters, fruit and vegetable slicers and choppers, Sterling vegetable peelers, butter paddles and butter spades, egg slicers, milk shakers, meat and fruit presses, meat choppers, coffee mills, knife grinders, mustard spoons, tooth picks, bread boards, cutting boards, butcher blocks, meat saws, cook's knives and spring scales.
There also are baskets, fly traps, water coolers, ice cube cutters, hand-operated and power ice cream freezers, ice cream and milk cabinets or refrigerators, floor mats, brushes and brooms, toilet paper, polishes, cuspidors and spittoons, bathroom fixtures, palms and plants, hanging baskets, artificial vines and garlands, brass hotel key and baggage checks, metal trade tokens, badges, waiters' and bartenders' coats and vests, lace and lawn curtains, tablecloths and towels.
The furniture department offered hotel bedding; brass beds; iron beds; enameled iron beds; bed springs; bentwood chairs and tables; "Neverwear'' metal furniture; child's furniture; bedroom chairs; cane and wood seat dining and bedroom chairs; rockers for parlor or bedroom; Adirondack lawn furniture; rustic hickory furniture; settees for lobby, lawn or billiard room; oak hotel dressers of quartered oak; chiffoniers; washstands; dressing tables; desks; sideboards; buffets; kitchen cabinets and cupboards; wardrobes; bedroom tables; dining room tables; desk tables; writing tables; library tables, and lots more.”

I think this should be plenty of information
Kind regards


"A page per month"

In this column we present a page (one page only) obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs or whatever other printed paper, which may be of particular interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only
a page from a price list of electro silver plated tableware manufactured by Simeon L. & George H. Rogers Company This month ASCAS presents the images of two dried beef and one sardine fork from the catalogue No 10 (date unknown) of Simeon L. & George H. Rogers Company, P.O. Box 1205, Hartford, Conn.

a page from a price list of electro silver plated tableware manufactured by Simeon L. & George H. Rogers Company


I'm particularly proud to present this edition of ASCAS Newsletter, exceptionally rich of content and with three articles instead of usual two. Another element of satisfaction is that (unlike other recent newsletters) most of this material was written by ASCAS members and not by ASCAS secretary.
I hope that this trend will continue in next months, but, at the present, I have received no new article to be published in next Newsletter.
Closing our OCTOBER 2006 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to Maria Ines Braudo (Argentina), Dorothea Burstyn (Canada), Jayne Dye (USA), Graham Griffiths (England UK), Kari Helenius (Finland), Bert Hoebink, Jacquie Mallory (Canada), Tina Reuwsaat (USA), Shailesh Sawant, Eric Schneider (England UK), Karin Sixl-Daniell (Austria), Alan Yates (Austria) for their invaluable contributions.

Giorgio Busetto
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